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  • From: Antonio Garcia <garcia.secretariagh.antonio1 AT gmail.com>
  • To: Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Psalm 57
  • Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:56:35 +0200

Hi everybody:

This ist the same proposal, about understanding psalms without
knowing their structure. I hope you can share the structure of this psalm,
to speak with more knowledge about meanings or reading, or legendum.

I´m sure, someone in this list knows their structure, and he must
share this document. What are you doing hiding the structure of psalms?. I
want to see the all psalm, unpointed and structured, my eyes would seen too
this psalm 57, ich brauche eine spaziergang von psalm 57 machen.

Kind regards from the cave of the panter, modern Benidorm, Bayit
Nemrod, [ysepam]

Antonio Garcia Hurtado.


2010/10/21 Pere Porta <pporta7 AT gmail.com>

> Karl,
>
> 1. Concerning the last question in your message, yes, it looks like a
> Hiphil
> in a quite similar way of "l'hapyl" (1Sa 18:25), which is from 'nafal'.
> But.... it seems that verb 'natam' is not found in Hebrew.
> Then... the hypothesis does not work.
>
> 2. No relation with the last verb in Lv 11:43 (which comes from tame', to
> be
> unclean)
>
> 3. Why are you not fully accepting the usual or traditional parsing and
> understanding of this word as a Qal Participle, plural masculine, of verb
> להט (lahat)?
>
>
> Pere Porta
> (Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain)
>
>
> 2010/10/21 K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com>
>
> > Verses 3 (4) and 4 (5) are giving me problems, are there any clues from
> > cognate languages, alternate readings that might shed light on these
> > verses?
> >
> >
> > In verse 3 (4) סלה appears from context to be a verb, used also in Psalm
> > 119:118. In Psalm 119:118 it seems to have the meaning of “to despise”,
> > making this section of the verse read “he (God) despises the reproaching
> of
> > those who (figuratively) sniff around me”.
> >
> >
> > שאף to sniff, smell, as an animal sniffs around and follows a scent to
> what
> > it wants, used metaphorically to refer to enemies “sniffing around” to
> find
> > reasons to destroy, and to hunt down their quarry
> >
> >
> > In Psalm 57:5 (4), לבאם refers to the שאפי in the previous verse, with a
> > suffixed mem for the plural possessive, any idea as to the meaning? לבא
> is
> > never used in Tanakh to refer to “lion”, though לבאה is used once in
> Nahum
> > 2:12 for “lioness”. The other 13 times its meaning is of “to go” or
> > “going”.
> >
> >
> > Any idea for the root and meaning of להטים ? It looks like a hiphil from
> a
> > verb נטם but is there such a verb? Is this the same as the last verb in
> > Leviticus 11:43?
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Karl W. Randolph.
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>
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