Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>]

Dear all,

Let us remember that this is not a "faith-based" list. We are all here to
discuss and to learn. Some are Christians, some are Jews, some would claim
to be total atheists. There is nothing wrong with "mentioning" one's faith
(or non-faith) perspective, but we all must remember that other members may
not share that perspective. It's not really a matter of offending (why
should anyone be offended by another's faith), but rather of finding a
common basis for discussion. Many of us do not share the assumption that the
"Old Testament" was written or should be read with the Christian Messiah in
mind. To some of them, Is. 49 was prophesying the Babylonian Exile, when
Jews may have felt that God had abandoned them. To others, who don't assume
that Isaiah could really prophesize about the future, this must be a "second
Isaiah", who lived and preached during the Exile itself. To both groups,
various passages in the NT may refer to Isaiah 49 and re-interpret it in
such a way that would be relevant for followers of Jesus, but they do not
teach us about the original meaning of the text of Isaiah. 

Yigal Levin

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Belot [mailto:dbelot AT bigpond.net.au] 
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:35 AM
To: Yigal Levin; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] the hellenization of Isaiah

Yigal I think somewhere someone  challenged me for mentioning the Holy
Spirit , for that I apologise , I do  at any stage wish to offend , only to
learn.

It would seem to me that Is 49:7-18 speaks of this time , when the Jews, 
here called Zion,  were feeling forsaken for the Lord had gone to the 
gentiles , this was apparently when Paul was commissioned to go to the 
gentiles . 2nd Cor 6:2 speaks of this also .

I thinks so to does Acts 13:46/Is 49:7-18 , Rom 9:24-26/Hos 1:11 both speak 
of the gentile inclusion some time after Math 10:5-7.

I believe that Christian believers, "Body of Christ",  were offered only 
Greek Scriptures , and thus I would assume that all Christian believers 
would follow that patern, if it was good enough for Paul , surely its good 
enough for us .

doug belot