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[davedonnelly1 AT juno.com]

I apologize to the members of the B-hebrew Discussion that I could not
influence any KJBO Christian 
to join the B-Hebrew Discussion Board and to enter into discussions
concerning the name "Jehovah".

Nothing seems to have changed:

KJVO Christians dogmatically continue to believe that God's name is
"Jehovah".
AND
Most members of the B-hebrew Discussion Board seem to continue to believe

that the Masoretes had placed specific vowel points into YHWH 
to indicate to the Jewish reader that when he or she saw 
[Yod-shewa-heh-defective holem-waw-qamets-heh] in the Masoretic Text,
he or she was to read "Adonay" 
and that he or she was not to read [Yod-shewa-heh-defective
holem-waw-qamets-heh] as "Jehovah". 

Amen

Dave Donnelly




davedonnelly1 at juno.com davedonnelly1 at juno.com 
Mon Aug 16 11:16:45 EDT 2010 



The title of this post: 

"Would B-hebrew discuss the name Jehovah with a KJBO Christian? " is only
a hypothetical question.

I am not a KJBO Christian, although I am somewhat familiar with their
beliefs.

I wrote the question  below to a KJBO Christian on 
Who's your Final Authority / Which Bible Discussion Board.


>>>
Would you be willing to join the B-hebrew Discussion Board and attempt to
convince the Hebrew Scholars who post on B-Hebrew, that it is they that
are in error, not the KJB.

What method would you use to prove to Hebrew Scholars that the Masoretes
wanted Hebrew Word #3068 to be read as "JEHOVAH" and not read as
"Adonay".

Since 1611, how many KJBO Christians have spent any time trying to
convince a Hebrew Scholar that Hebrew Word #3068 should be read as
"JEHOVAH", and not read as "Adonay"?
                                                                         
Shain, It certainly would be interesting to see you and Bibleprotector
join the B-Hebrew Discussion Board, and attempt to convince B-Hebrew
Scholars that the correct pronunciation of Hebrew Word 3068 is "JEHOVAH"
>>>

Exodus, [a.k.a. Dave Donnelly]


>>>

A KJBO Christian with the Discussion Board name : "Bibleprotector"
responded:

He wrote:

>>>
I don't know the board you refer to, or who these "Hebrew Scholars" are, 
but it seems like a fairly secular group to me.

I have a more astounding and convincing way of showing that God's name is
JEHOVAH than what they would allow. 
>>>

Would the moderators of this B-hebrew Discussion Board allow
"Bibleprotector" to join B-hebrew and 
attempt to convince B-Hebrew members that God's name is actually
"Jehovah"?

Dave Donnelly 
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Dave, the two positions are not mutually exclusive. 

Without getting into the question of the precise pronunciation of the
Tetragramaton, Jewish (Masoretic) tradition never denied that that was God's
true name. the tradition is simply that God's true name is sacred and should
thus never be pronounced. Vocalizing "Adonai" and the like goes back to
Second Temple times, and is reflected by the LXX "Kyrios", which was
rendered "Dominus" Latin and became the English "Lord". The various
Mesoretic pointings of the name simply indicate which substitute
pronunciation should be used, not that that is the "true" pronunciation of
YHWH.

Yigal Levin

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Subject: [b-hebrew] Would B-hebrew discuss the name Jehovah with a KJBO
Christian?

I apologize to the members of the B-hebrew Discussion that I could not
influence any KJBO Christian 
to join the B-Hebrew Discussion Board and to enter into discussions
concerning the name "Jehovah".

Nothing seems to have changed:

KJVO Christians dogmatically continue to believe that God's name is
"Jehovah".
AND
Most members of the B-hebrew Discussion Board seem to continue to believe

that the Masoretes had placed specific vowel points into YHWH 
to indicate to the Jewish reader that when he or she saw 
[Yod-shewa-heh-defective holem-waw-qamets-heh] in the Masoretic Text,
he or she was to read "Adonay" 
and that he or she was not to read [Yod-shewa-heh-defective
holem-waw-qamets-heh] as "Jehovah". 

Amen

Dave Donnelly