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  • From: Donald Vance <donaldrvance AT mac.com>
  • To: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Would B-hebrew discuss the name Jehovah with a KJBOChristian?
  • Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:31:47 -0500

KJBO = King James Bible Only
My experience with such folk is that if there is a discrepancy between the
King James Version and the Hebrew or Greek (whether text or grammar), then
the Hebrew or Greek is wrong. God inspired the Authorized Version translators
on the same level as the original authors. Further, only the 1611 AD version
of the Authorized Version is the Word of God. We have such folk by the bushel
in Oklahoma and Arkansas sporting bumper stickers that read "1611= Word of
God". These are fundamentalists of the most characatured stripe. There is a
whole publishing industry devoted to this topic, both pro and con. This could
be interesting.

Sent from my iPhone

Donald R. Vance
donaldrvance AT mac.com

On Aug 17, 2010, at 7:14 AM, Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il> wrote:

> Dear Dave,
>
> First of all, what's the O in "KJBO Christian"?
>
> Second, as you know, the list is open to members of all faiths (and of no
> faith), and the fact that a member makes his religious orientation known
> simply makes it easier for the rest of us to "know where he's coming from".
>
> On the other hand, before inviting him to join, please make sure that he
> understands the following excerpt from the list rules:
>
> "B-Hebrew is a list at which members can discuss issues and raise questions
> regarding Biblical Hebrew language and literature. All discussions must
> proceed with the basic scholarly principles of logic and evidence. Arguments
> based on religious faith and theology are not permitted. B-Hebrew is a
> non-theological forum. While the discussion of Biblical Hebrew will
> sometimes approach theological issues, members should ensure that they steer
> discussion towards language and literature, rather than theology. Please do
> not treat the forum as your own personalised column at which you can make
> pronouncements. Instead, you should always seek to interact with members in
> a cordial and reasoned way which promotes discussion."
>
> In other words, if what he intends to do is to state "Hebrew Word #3068
> should be read as "JEHOVAH" and not read as "Adonay" because that's what I
> believe" over and over again, he will very quickly find himself on
> moderation.
>
> Also please make sure that he knows that the YHWH/Adonai issue has been
> discussed at length, and suggest that he look through the archives to see if
> he really has anything substantial to add. If not, once again he might find
> that some members, moderators included, will allow him a very short leash.
>
>
> In other words, if he comes to discuss and to learn and to respect others,
> he's most welcome. If he comes to preach, he might find a more receptive
> audience elsewhere.
>
>
> Yigal Levin
>
> Co-moderator, B-Hebrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
> davedonnelly1 AT juno.com
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:17 PM
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [b-hebrew] Would B-hebrew discuss the name Jehovah with a
> KJBOChristian?
>
>
>
> The title of this post:
>
> "Would B-hebrew discuss the name Jehovah with a KJBO Christian? " is only
> a hypothetical question.
>
> I am not a KJBO Christian, although I am somewhat familiar with their
> beliefs.
>
> I wrote the question below to a KJBO Christian on
> Who's your Final Authority / Which Bible Discussion Board.
>
>
>>>>
> Would you be willing to join the B-hebrew Discussion Board and attempt to
> convince the Hebrew Scholars who post on B-Hebrew, that it is they that
> are in error, not the KJB.
>
> What method would you use to prove to Hebrew Scholars that the Masoretes
> wanted Hebrew Word #3068 to be read as "JEHOVAH" and not read as
> "Adonay".
>
> Since 1611, how many KJBO Christians have spent any time trying to
> convince a Hebrew Scholar that Hebrew Word #3068 should be read as
> "JEHOVAH", and not read as "Adonay"?
>
> Shain, It certainly would be interesting to see you and Bibleprotector
> join the B-Hebrew Discussion Board, and attempt to convince B-Hebrew
> Scholars that the correct pronunciation of Hebrew Word 3068 is "JEHOVAH"
>>>>
>
> Exodus, [a.k.a. Dave Donnelly]
>
>
>>>>
>
> A KJBO Christian with the Discussion Board name : "Bibleprotector"
> responded:
>
> He wrote:
>
>>>>
> I don't know the board you refer to, or who these "Hebrew Scholars" are,
> but it seems like a fairly secular group to me.
>
> I have a more astounding and convincing way of showing that God's name is
> JEHOVAH
> than what they would allow.
>>>>
>
> Would the moderators of this B-hebrew Discussion Board allow
> "Bibleprotector" to join B-hebrew and
> attempt to convince B-Hebrew members that God's name is actually
> "Jehovah"?
>
> Dave Donnelly
>
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