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  • From: dwashbur AT nyx.net
  • To: "'b-hebrew'" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Generation grammar and b-hebrew
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:11:36 -0700



On 16 Jun 2010 at 20:08, Eric Inman wrote:

> I have a question.
>
> My understanding is that such a grammar is for defining the set of
> sentences
> that can be considered to be valid Hebrew sentences. This would
> imply that
> any sentence is in one of two states: either a valid Hebrew sentence
> or not.
> My concern is that typically there are sentences which are
> technically valid
> but which would never or rarely be used in practice. In some cases
> this
> would be because the sentence makes no sense semantically. In other
> cases it
> would be because for whatever reason a different sentence would
> normally be
> preferred for expressing the given content. In other words, the
> question of
> whether or not a sentence is a valid Hebrew sentence sometimes is
> neither
> yes or no but rather more of a probability or set of probabilities
> of how
> likely the sentence is to be used in practice and/or considered
> valid.

Not exactly. Generative grammarians don't use the term "valid." Rather, we
use "well
formed," which is to say, it fits what we understand about how the language
actually forms
clauses. Generative grammar, in contrast to previous systems such as
structuralism,
doesn't just seek to describe. It seeks to explain. That is, a structural
approach says "This
is what we see, and here's a categorization of it," whereas generative says
"This is what we
see, and here is how it comes about, how it's generated within the speaker's
mind." In a
generative approach, we try to predict what would constitute a well formed
clause and what
would not. Now, pretty much all languages at one time or another use
ill-formed clauses,
clauses that go contrary to what we know of the "normative" grammar of the
language.
Consider this:

Six months ago I couldn't even spell "scholar" and now I are one.

The last clause is deliberately ill-formed to illustrate a point. But that
doesn't make it any
less ill-formed. A generative grammar of BH would seek to determine what is
a well-formed
clause, what contexts would produce it, and what constraints there are on the
rules that form
it.

Hope this helps,

Dave Washburn

http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur




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