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  • From: davedonnelly1 AT juno.com
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  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Unpointed
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:58:41 -0400

Hi Karl
The following text was found at
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/torah.htm
The article was titled:
Torah
Level: Basic
>>>
The Torah scrolls that we read from in synagogue are unpointed text, with
no vowels or musical notes, so the ability to read a passage from a
scroll is a valuable skill, and usually requires substantial advance
preparation (reviewing the passage in a text with points). See Hebrew
Alphabet for more on pointed and unpointed texts.
>>>
Karl.
In 2010 in both synagogues in Israel as well as synagogues in the United
States, would the Torah scrolls be likely to be unpointed?
Dave Donnelly
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K Randolph kwrandolph at gmail.com
Tue Jun 15 02:37:18 EDT 2010
Let’s use the example of Proverbs 1:19.


The first step, strip away the points. The points were not original are
sometimes wrong. Even if they are wrong as few as 1% of the time, that is
too often for me. From a seat of the pants impression, the points are
wrong
2–5% of the time. If one tries to keep to the points when they are wrong,
it
can lead to some real mental gymnastics. It’s no problem if the points
are
correct, but we can't assume that.
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Sounds to me like machine translation.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:37 AM, K Randolph wrote:

> =D7=9B=D7=9F =D7=90=D7=A8=D7=97=D7=95=D7=AA =D7=9B=D7=9C =D7=91=D7=A6=D7=
=A2 =D7=91=D7=A6=D7=A2 =D7=90=D7=AA =D7=A0=D7=A4=D7=A9 =D7=91=D7=A2=D7=9C=D7=
=99=D7=95 =D7=99=D7=A7=D7=97
>
>
> A final translation, smoothed out in English with a bit a =20
> paraphrasing,
> could very well be, =E2=80=9CSuch are the roads of those who take a =
cut of =20
> the loot;
> unjust gain takes over the life of its owner.=E2=80=9D





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