Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

רעה is not 'graze' and not 'feed', it is 'roam freely'.
בתר is 'cut into separate pieces'.
פתר is 'solved', which in English means 'loosened', and so is פשר
אסר= עצר = אצר is 'accumulate, hoard, hold together, hold  
back'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:16 PM, K Randolph wrote:

> Isaak:
>
> Your theory works only with cherry picked data, and then even  
> sometimes by
> misrepresenting that cherry picked data.
>
> For example, you reference רעה which you misrepresent as having  
> the meaning
> of ‘to graze’ while its uses in Tanakh show its meaning of ‘to  
> feed’ of
> which grazing is one way to feed ruminants. It is used also in  
> connection
> with feeding other people and even oneself.
>
> בדר not Biblical Hebrew
> בזר to allot
> בסר a noun, unripe grapes
> בצר to remove, be removed, e.g. grapes from a vine, abilities ⇒  
> to make or
> be inaccessible, fortify (inaccessible place)
> בשר to report, often a good report
> בתר to section, cut into pieces
> פדר noun, uncertain meaning, rumen, stomach, ??
> פזר to distribute, disperse (push away)
> פטר to open forth, release (from duties), in order to come out  
> (in a place
> where there is irrigation, a person who is opening forth or  
> releasing waters
> is stealing from his neighbors) hence to slip out (escape)
> פצר to beg hence to urge
> פשר a noun, used only once, explanation
> פתר to interpret (a dream)
>
> If the presence of ‘ר’ in a word “indicates reference to an  
> aggregated
> material state” as you claim, then what about:
>
> אבר to soar
>
> אדר to have splendor
>
> אחר to delay
>
> אטר to restrict, prevent access to
>
> עצר to restrain, in the sense of keeping from an action, holding  
> back
>
> פגר to collapse from exhaustion
>
> שׂקר to apply mascara (is not applying makeup deceptive, hence  
> connected to
> the following?)
>
> שׁקר to deceive by any means
>
>
> I can go on and on, but it should be clear by now that the presence  
> of ‘ר’
> in a word does not indicate “reference to an aggregated material  
> state” as
> you claim. This is why your theory doesn’t convince. When one  
> looks at all
> the data, not just your cherry picked data, then your theory falls  
> apart.
> And when I am a self-taught scholar, you can’t accuse me of  
> following the
> herd of scholastic orthodoxy (which I don’t even know).
>
> Karl W. Randolph.
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu> wrote:
>
> > I will give you the gist of it. First, I believe that the presence of
> > the letter R in a Hebrew root indicates reference to an aggregated
> > material state. For instance, the verb, RAAH, ראה 'see',
> > essentially means 'to separate, differentiate, and distinguish the
> > discerned details', while the verb RAAH, רעה, 'graze', essentially
> > means 'to roam freely'.
> > The root PTR, פתר, 'solve, unravel, clear-up', essentially means  
> > to
> > 'break-up, or relieve, a difficulty'.
> > This root is a member of the family of roots
> >
> > בדר, בזר, בסר, בצר, בשר, בתר
> > פדר, פזר, פטר, פצר, פשר, פתר
> >
> > all of the same basic meaning.
> >
> > Isaac Fried, Boston University
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