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- From: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet
- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:10:29 +0200
Dear Randall,
An argument of yours in a previous post in favor of Qohelet being Proto-Mishnaic Hebrew was:
"and the frequent use of ve-qatal (50xx) instead of vayyixtov is 'low
dialect' not just Second Temple, and lines up with Mishnaic Hebrew."
Below is the statistics of the use in Qohelet of QATAL with prefixed W (WEQATAL) and with prefixed $. Could you please show the list how the use of the prefix-forms in Qohelet "lines up" with Mishnaic Hebrew?
VERBS IN QOHELET (TEMPORAL REFERENCES)
WEQATAL
Past: 24
Present: 7
Perfect: 1
Future: 2 (not future perfect)
Gnomic: 11
progressive past: 1
Modal: 2
QATAL:
Past: 44
Present: 31
Perfect: 31
Future: 2 (not future perfect)
Gnomic: 26
progressive past: 1
Modal: 1
In addition to the QATALs and WEQATALs Qohelet has 115 YIQTOLs and 3 WAYYIQTOLs.
Which traits are Mishnaic of Proto-Mischnaic? The past and perfect references of Qatal agrees with Mishnaic Hebrew, but we also find this use elsewhere in the Tanakh. But what about all the gnomic (=expressions of general truths) examples, all the examples with present reference, and the two examples of QATAL with future reference? And how shall we explain the WAYYIQTOLs?
Moreover, in the book of Proverbs we find 150 QATALs and 41 WEQATALs, and they have about the same temporal reference as the QATALs and WEQATALs in Qohelet. But we find only 28 WAYYIQTOLs. The reason for the many QATALs and the few WAYYIQTOLs is of course genre and style. So why could not the extensive use of QATALs/WEQATALs in Qohelet (compared with the few WAYYIQTOLs) also be ascribed to genre and style, because Qothelet is in many respects similar to Proverbs?
Best regards,
Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo
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[b-hebrew] Qohelet,
Randall Buth, 09/04/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, K Randolph, 09/05/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/05/2009
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[b-hebrew] Qohelet,
Randall Buth, 09/05/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/07/2009
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[b-hebrew] Qohelet,
Randall Buth, 09/07/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/07/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/10/2009
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, K Randolph, 09/10/2009
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[b-hebrew] Qohelet,
Randall Buth, 09/09/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/10/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Rolf Furuli, 09/11/2009
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[b-hebrew] Qohelet,
Randall Buth, 09/10/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] Qohelet, James Read, 09/10/2009
- [b-hebrew] Qohelet, Ron Snider, 09/10/2009
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