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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills
- From: Stephen and Rebecca Shead <srshead AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills
- Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:00:21 -0400
Good question, Stoney, I asked myself exactly the same thing. In Spanish you
would say "undulating hills" (colinas ondulantes).
And a follow-up for Jim Stinehart: Do you realise how much of a semantic
leap is required to get from the verb "roll" to the idiom "rolling hills"?
It is by no means an obvious metaphor - I'd be very surprised if it was
particularly common cross-linguistically. "Undulating hills" seems far more
obvious to me, and more likely to be prevalent cross-linguistically. "Roll"
is a type of movement associated with round objects, and whatever hills do,
they do not "roll"! They don't even looking like a rolling thing. But when
you scan your eyes along hills of a certain kind, it does look like they "go
up and down" - a very different type of movement.
Now it's not too hard to imagine how the English idiom might have arisen.
But my point is that it is actually a very strange expression. So EVEN IF
all your other linguistic arguments about GRR, GLL, GRGR, GLGL and GLYL hold
water (and I'm not going to go there at this stage), a semantic connection
"GRR roll --> the rolling hills" seems very unlikely to me, and it's
certainly not a strong linguistic argument unless there's evidence for the
metaphor somewhere else.
Stephen Shead
Santiago, Chile
---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Stoney Breyer" <stoneyb AT touchwoodcreative.com>
> To: <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:24:00 -0500
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills
> Does any language other than English known to members of this list employ
> the metaphor "rolling hills"?
>
> Stoney Breyer
> Writer/Touchwood
>
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
JimStinehart, 05/27/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
Stephen and Rebecca Shead, 05/27/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
K Randolph, 05/27/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
Yitzhak Sapir, 05/28/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills, K Randolph, 05/28/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
Yitzhak Sapir, 05/28/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
K Randolph, 05/27/2009
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Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills,
JimStinehart, 05/28/2009
- Re: [b-hebrew] theories and standards: Rolling hills, George Athas, 05/28/2009
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