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[John Estell <oldearther AT yahoo.com>]

Harold,

I'm not quite following what you are saying.  What did Satan mean by "to your 
face"?




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From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard3 AT earthlink.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:28:56 PM
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] barak (bless? curse?) in the Book of Job

John ,
> Young's Literal Translation renders Job 1:11  as such: The work of his 
> hands Thou hast blessed, and his substance hath spread in the land, and 
> yet, put forth, I pray Thee, Thy hand, and strike against anything that he 
> hath -- if not: to Thy face he doth bless Thee!'
>
> I understand that most translations translated barak as "curse" in this 
> verse, as well as in Job 1:5, 2:5, and 2:9.  However, does the usual sense 
> of "to bless" make sense in this context?
>
> Might Satan be asking  God a question that if He put forth His hand against 
> Job
> will Job bless God to His face? Or in 2:5, might Satan have been telling 
> God to put forth His hand and touch all Job has in order to see if he will 
> still bless God?
>  

HH: No, it does not seem to work. The "if not" is a veiled oath formula, 
so Satan is swearing that Job will bless God to his face. And really, 
what does "to your face" mean with "bless"?

Yours,
Harold Holmyard
>  

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I have appeared because Jesus is coming.  I am the forerunner, like John the 
Baptizer.  If you care to accept it, I am John.  John is my confirmation name.

I have basically been without a teacing post and homeless for several years 
due to persecution.
 
My working synthesis for the origins of early Israel to the Solomonic 
monarchy is found in my book, Tradition and History in Early Israel.  It is 
time to think synthetically about ancient Israel instead of only atomistic 
concerns.
 
LM Barré
Herald of the Living God
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Well, I can think of a few reasons why you might be out of job, and
only *among* them is this strange proclamation of yours. Good luck
with your heralding. In the meantime, can we keep the posting here
restricted to issues related to the Hebrew Bible and not delusions of
reincarnated glory?

Best regards,
Jason Hare
Herald of Wild Speculation

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:24 AM, LM Barre <l_barre AT yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have appeared because Jesus is coming.  I am the forerunner, like John 
> the Baptizer.  If you care to accept it, I am John.  John is my 
> confirmation name.
>
> I have basically been without a teacing post and homeless for several years 
> due to persecution.
>
> My working synthesis for the origins of early Israel to the Solomonic 
> monarchy is found in my book, Tradition and History in Early Israel.  It is 
> time to think synthetically about ancient Israel instead of only atomistic 
> concerns.
>
> LM Barré
> Herald of the Living God
> http://freewebs.com/lmbarre
>
>
>
>
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