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[Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>]

In connection with the claim that BR) [but not YCR and (SH] is a  
divine prerogative --- only God can "create" something, but Man may  
well be a YOCER and an (OSEH, I recall having said once that also  
SLX, 'forgive', is found in the HB exclusively as an act of God. Yet  
it is extensively used now to describe interpersonal relationships,  
so much so that SLIXAH is currently upon every lip as, 'sorry, pardon  
me'.

Isaac Fried, Boston University
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] The root BR)
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Yes.
But... we must consider the use of BR) within the Bible itself and not the 
today use of this verb in Israel...
Is there in the Bible any place where BR) is said of a human being?
The word in Ezekiel you wrote yesterday about, BFR"), ... is a Pi'el 
Infinitive absolute with the meaning "to cut out", nothing to do with the 
concepte "to create".

Pere Porta
Barcelona

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> In connection with the claim that BR) [but not YCR and (SH] is a
> divine prerogative --- only God can "create" something, but Man may
> well be a YOCER and an (OSEH, I recall having said once that also
> SLX, 'forgive', is found in the HB exclusively as an act of God. Yet
> it is extensively used now to describe interpersonal relationships,
> so much so that SLIXAH is currently upon every lip as, 'sorry, pardon
> me'.
>
> Isaac Fried, Boston University
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