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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic
- From: "Ken Penner" <ken.penner AT acadiau.ca>
- To: <dwashbur AT nyx.net>, <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic
- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:09:40 -0300
For the record, I agree that Hebrew was a spoken language in first-century
Judea.
I just wanted to correct the impression made by a couple of statements, one
by Dave Washburn, and one by Yishmor.
Dave wrote:
> It is widely accepted that "Hebrew" in these passages refers
> to Aramaic. See the commentaries. Also, Jesus' cry on the
> cross was clearly Aramaic.
The first two sentences above are true, but that is because the majority of
NT scholars are not up-to-date with their study of the history of Hebrew.
They generally perpetuate theories developed over a hundred years ago
(largely by Dalman, using the best data and research available at that time),
i.e., before Segal's study, and before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Dave's last point that Jesus' cry was "clearly" Aramaic is not quite so clear
if one looks beyond the critical editions of the New Testament to the
manuscripts themselves. But in any case, that cry was not called "Hebrew,"
and we're not arguing about whether Jesus could speak Aramaic.
Yishmor wrote:
> > If one says that Hebrew
> > remained a religious language and so the DSS don't count because they
> > are religious text, you would be ignoring the many non-religious texts
> > contained in the DSS that are written in Hebrew.
There were not many non-religious texts found at Qumran. 4Q342-358 are the
only ones I know of. And most of these are written in Aramaic; perhaps three
are clearly Hebrew.
Some readers might have the impression that "many" out of hundreds indicates
a number much larger than three.
Ken
Ken M. Penner, Ph.D. (McMaster)
Acadia/Greek&Hebrew
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http://purl.org/net/kmpenner/flash
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a spoken language
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a spoken language, dwashbur, 10/25/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic,
Yishmor, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Bryant J. Williams III, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Bryant J. Williams III, 10/27/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/27/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Ken Penner, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, K Randolph, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Ken Penner, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/26/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Ken Penner, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, Bryant J. Williams III, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, K Randolph, 10/29/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew as a Spoken Language vs. Aramaic, dwashbur, 10/29/2007
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- [b-hebrew] Linguistic Dating, George Athas, 10/29/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Linguistic Dating, David Mark, 10/29/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Linguistic Dating, K Randolph, 10/29/2007
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Linguistic Dating, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/30/2007
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