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- From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?
- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:05:02 +0200
On 10/17/07, Pere Porta wrote:
> In my study on Hebrew patterns I have remarked that as regards the Qal
> imperfect 3rd person singular masculine or most transitive regular verbs the
> Bible uses, in a general way, the short form (look at
> www.oham.net/out/P-t/P-t189.html) more often, by far, than the long one
> (look at www.oham.net/out/PI-t2/PI-t2-034.html).
>
> But this seems not to apply to the book of Job, where the long form seems to
> be much more usual than the short one.
>
> I'm wondering whether there are any reasons (perhaps historic? others?) for
> this.
Your "long" and "short" forms appear to be not what Hebraists normally use in
reference to verbs. They appear to be comments on the absence or presence
of a waw for the vowel [o:]. However, in Tiberian Hebrew vocalization, the
vowel [o:] is always long irrespective of whether there is a waw or not. In
general, and this applies to all [o:] vowels, a vowel is long in Tiberian
Hebrew
if it is in an open or stressed syllable. So [yixto:v] and [yi$po:+] are
pronounced with the same vowel in the second syllable. The only way to
get a short [o] vowel is in a short open syllable before a guttural. A short
open syllable is designated by a schewa or hataf patax. Thus, the word
thwm is pronounced toho:m with a short [o] after the t.
Yitzhak Sapir
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Re: [b-hebrew] How?
, (continued)
- Re: [b-hebrew] How?, pporta, 10/15/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS),
Shoshanna Walker, 10/15/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), Gary Hedrick, 10/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), K Randolph, 10/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), biblical hebrew, 10/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS),
Shoshanna Walker, 10/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), Kevin Riley, 10/16/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), Shoshanna Walker, 10/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS),
George Athas, 10/16/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
pporta, 10/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
pporta, 10/17/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?, Yitzhak Sapir, 10/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
pporta, 10/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/17/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Historic reasons?,
pporta, 10/17/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Calm Down! (FROM MODERATORS), Bill Rea, 10/17/2007
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