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  • From: JoeWallack AT aol.com
  • To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Definite Article 7:14 - HNH
  • Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 11:46:28 EDT

In a message dated 7/18/2007 5:46:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
if AT math.bu.edu writes:

Joseph,


1. I agree with Harold that HINEH does not require physical presence.

JW:
I agree too.


2. The Hebrew "definite article" does not require the defined to be
mentioned earlier in the discourse if he is known otherwise.

JW:
Agreed. The DA can create reasonable grounds all by itself. It's what it
does.


3. Virgin is a theological code word that has no correspondence in the
Hebrew bible, and hence the discussion (ALMAH/virgin is vain.

JW:
I have purposely avoided ThAlmah and BetaLouise here as it just distracts
from the Definite Article issue.


IF:
4. Things would look and sound much better if you replace "definite article"
by "non-arbitrary article".

JW:
Your point is that arbitrary/random is the more common usage and therefore
should be the standard for definitions?


IF:
5. The fact that the prophet said HA-(ALMAH [like saying HA-MALKAH] implies
that he was referring to a known person. The rest is theology.

JW:
While I agree and am interested in your opinion I'm not that interested in
unsupported assertions and I have Faith that those on the other side here
are
even less interested in unsupported assertions. On the other hand, I have to
confess that until relatively recently, translation issues with polemical
context like this one, have traditionally been determined by how many hold a
certain position and how loudly they do so, as opposed to solely
intellectual
considerations.



Joseph Wallack









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