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  • From: Isaac Fried <if AT math.bu.edu>
  • To: JCR128 AT student.anglia.ac.uk
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Dinah raped?
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:35:25 -0400

JAMES CHRISTIAN READ,

Are you taking into consideration the possibility that at that time Dinah was 10-12 years old.

Isaac Fried, Boston University

On Jul 20, 2007, at 3:53 PM, JAMES CHRISTIAN READ wrote:

Hi Harold,

see comments below:

Dear James,
Hi Micheal,

this is something I've thought about before in the past.
There doesn't seem to be any linguistic evidence that I've
seen that indicates any element of force. Dinah went to
see him. Not him to Dinah.

HH:The text does not say that Dinah went to see him. She went out to see
the "daughters of the land." They might include Shechem's relatives.

JCR: Good point.


Also it would take an incredibly
stupid bloke, when approached by a recently victim's brother,
that would believe the proposition 'If you cut your foreskin
off I'll let you marry my sister'.


HH: The Canaanites were sexually immoral, so they would not necessarily
see the proposition as insincere.

JCR: Another good point. Please bear in mind that at
this point I am not committing to either interpretation.
I am merely pointing out that in the face of decisive
linguistic evidence they are both valid and that there
are a number of contextual clues that support the one
over the other.

e.g. Consider verse 7

NWT Genesis 34:7
'And the sons of Jacob came in from the field as soon as they heard of it; and the men became hurt in their feelings and they grew very angry, because he had committed a disgraceful folly against Israel in lying down with Jacob’s daughter, whereas nothing like that ought to be done.'

Note that no mention of force is included when
why her brothers were angry. It is the mere thought of
their unmarried sister having extra marital sex.

Further consider their response in verse 31 when being
reprised by Isreal for their actions:

“Ought anyone to treat our sister like a prostitute?”

What are prostitutes better known for in Tanakh?
For being forced to have sex?
Or for having immoral extra-marital sex?

However, one contextual point seems to stand in favour
of an element of force. And that is why does there
seem to be a complete lack of any indication of
responsibility on Dinah's shoulders? Why aren't her
brothers angry with her for acting 'like a prostitue'?
feelings and they grew very angry, because he had committed a disgraceful folly against Israel in lying down with Jacob’s daughter, whereas nothing like that ought to be done.'

Note that no mention of force is included when
why her brothers were angry. It is the mere thought of
their unmarried sister having extra marital sex.

Further consider their response in verse 31 when being
reprised by Isreal for their actions:

“Ought anyone to treat our sister like a prostitute?”

What are prostitutes better k

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