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- From: "Yitzhak Sapir" <yitzhaksapir AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin
- Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 22:05:01 +0000
On 1/4/07, K Randolph wrote:
Yitzhak:
Did any of these authors who claimed that the sin/shin distinction in
Biblical Hebrew was the result of Aramaic influence mention that there
are several words sometimes written with a sin, sometimes with a shin,
but otherwise having the same meaning? That is not counting the roots
where one derivative is written with a sin and another a shin?
The real problem that you have here is arguing that these roots are
really sometimes this way sometimes the other way. Can you find
examples of stock phrases? (such as opening a letter with the word
"$lwm" but which sometimes appears with a sin) Perhaps you try
to assign them the same meaning despite their meaning being
distinct? One way to test this is to see if the cognates which have
regular patterns in the various languages, maintain the distinctions
in different languages.
However, as for the authors themselves, I wouldn't know. Most of them
are in German, which I can't read.
I take the existence of both situations as mentioned in the above
paragraph as evidences that prior to the Babylonian Exile, that sin
and shin were the same letter within Biblical Hebrew.
You take the "existence of both situations" as a given assumption, and
you allow nothing to disprove your own interpretations of these words.
That is really the problem and the difference between your statement of
the theory and these scholars'. For them, every assumption must be
proven.
Yitzhak Sapir
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[b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/03/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/04/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Peter Kirk, 01/04/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/05/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, Peter Kirk, 01/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/05/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/07/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, Yitzhak Sapir, 01/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Peter Kirk, 01/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, K Randolph, 01/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, Peter Kirk, 01/09/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, K Randolph, 01/10/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, Peter Kirk, 01/10/2007
- Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin, Yitzhak Sapir, 01/10/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/09/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Yitzhak Sapir, 01/07/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/06/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
Peter Kirk, 01/04/2007
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Re: [b-hebrew] Richard Steiner on Sin and Shin,
K Randolph, 01/04/2007
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