Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Seth Knorr <ftbaccounts AT yahoo.com>]

Karl,
  
So when you say ethnic groups;
In the correct context could these refer to for instance:
  ALL Persians, ALL Romans, ALL Heathen, ALL Gentiles, ALL Jews, etc...

Sincerely,

  Seth Knorr
  
K Randolph <kwrandolph AT gmail.com> wrote:
  Seth:

GWY refers to a nation as a body politic, used of Israel as well, e.g.
Exodus 19:5. In the plural and in context, because Israel was one
nation, it refers either to all nations or to the nations other than
Israel (context tells the difference).

(M refers to a people as what we today would call an ethnic grouping.

I hope this helps.

Karl W. Randolph.

On 10/6/06, Seth Knorr wrote:
> My question is in regards to "am" (cf. Daniel 8:24) and "goee" (cf. 
> Leviticus 25:44).
>
> These both seem to denote people or nation.
>
> However, in the KJV "am" is generally translated as (men, nation, people), 
> where as "goee" in the KJV is generally translated as (Gentile, heathen, 
> nation, people).
>
> In the Tenach I read, "goee" is almost always translated generically and as 
> far as I saw, is never translated Gentile or heathen.
>
> Is the KJV adding to the meaning of "goee" when it uses words like 
> "Gentile" or "Heathen"? Or is the meaning based solely on the context.
>
> My main question is this, is "am" generally in reference to Israel, where 
> as "goee" is generally used in reference to non-Israelites or gentiles. Is 
> this correct or wrong?
>
> It seems like that is generally the case, but is this just a coincidence or 
> on purpose?
>
> Thanks for any feedback,
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Seth Knorr
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>Besides, et is a very specific case. Any examples of regular words?

Lots of examples.  BEN ("son") has the same alternation.  So does SHEN
(sometimes).


>Again, this is a specific case. Why, by the way, there couldn't be
>epenthesis at the word end? cotevt - cotevet.

Epenthesis only occurs between two consonants.  (Your example of
cotevt/cotevet is not at the end of the word, but immediately
preceding the end.)

>The important thing about seghol is that it occurs either in specific
>epenthetic positions, or with specific consonants. No other vowel is relates

I don't thinnk so, but segol is certainly is not limited to
epenthesis, as we now seem to agree.

-Joel

Joel M. Hoffman, PhD
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