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["John B. Senterfitt" <millenia05 AT earthlink.net>]

> From: John B. Senterfitt Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:18 PM
> 
> The Hebrew word in Daniel 9:24 translated "are determined" has only one
> striking Greek equivalent in the NT Greek and that is found in Revelation
> 20:12 and 13. 
> 

[Steve Miller] John, What is your basis for saying this? The word that the
LXX used to translate "are determined" is only used in the NT in Rom. 9:28,
where it is used figuratively to mean "cut short".


ἐκρίθησαν κρίνω viap3p 

Steve I do hope this Greek rendering comes through in your Email system; and 
if so you will notice that it is Verb, Indicative, Aorist, Passive, 3rd 
person, Plural. In this grammatical form the only three places it occurs are 
as follows:

KJV Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy 
holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to 
make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, 
and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

KJV Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; 
and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of 
life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the 
books, according to their works.

KJV Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death 
and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every 
man according to their works. 

Of course the Septuagint is the connecting link and the Hebrew word 
translated "determined" comes through in the Revelators writing as 
"were-judged".

I know the Hebrew word translated as "determined"

נֶחְתַּךְ

in its basic means to divide. Pictures of this kind of dividing is seen in 
the Hebrew people being carried away into other Nations in captivity. This is 
a picture of dividing or judgment. And in sum-total that is what the seventy 
weeks (490 years) are set aside for and that essentially is the last half of 
the 1000 years laid out in Revelation chapter 20.

John B. Senterfitt
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On 9/24/06, Vadim Cherny <VadimCherny AT mail.ru> wrote:
> Torah is from tur, to instruct, admonish. Suffix hey is not feminine, but
> the suffix of result, such as in cotev - ctivah. Thus Torah - instruction,
> admonition.
> You can see other examples at
> http://vadimcherny.org/hebrew/affix_hey_direction.htm
> Basically, there are several different suffixes hey, and they have nothing
> to do with feminine.
>
> Vadim Cherny

I've never heard of this before, and I do not think this is right.

Torah [TWRH] is a nominal form of the root YRH in the hiphil binyan.
Horah [HWRH] means "he cast, he shot [an arrow]; he pointed out; he
taught." It is related to the participial form Moreh [MWRH], meaning
both "teacher" and "archer."

There is a root TWR, which means "to travel around, to spy out, to
investigate." TWRH does not comes from this root, however. This is
confirmed by both BDB and Davidson's /Analytical Hebrew and Chaldeed
Lexicon/.

Be well,
Yonah

--
Yonah Mishael ben Avraham
Joplin, MO
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