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- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil
- Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:15:49 -0500
Charles Rempel wrote:
I was re-reading this and I do not see how this can be logical.
HH: Yes, by creating a world God created darkness if there was no light.
If there was not light, then it was dark. If it was dark, then darkness
could not be created.
HH: But there would be no darkness if God had not created the world, so he created darkness too. He evidently planned for darkness to exist, and there was darkness when he created the world. So He obviously created it.
Darkness would be an automatic by-product of a world without light.
Darkness would not be an automatic by-product, it would be a mandatory
complement. If there is no light, then darkness must pre-exist.
HH: But there would be no darkness if God did not create the world in which things could be dark. So darkness is a created entity too, even though it is an absence of light.
Since he created the world, he created darkness.
Could I likewise then say, "Since He created the world, He created evil"?
HH: God says that he creates evil, so of course you can say that. But clearly moral evil is due to moral agents, and God as a moral agent does not produce moral evil because he is holy. However, angels and men do produce moral evil by contravening God's good will.
The Isaiah text correlates darkness and evil. But the relationship between
Isaiah 45:7 and Genesis 1:1 is not established unless you presume that all
creative acts were done at "0 hour".
HH: Right, but I think Isa 45:7 is using the term "evil" in the sense of "disaster." I understand what you are saying about moral evil being a by-product of God's creation of the world. However, it was not a necessary by-product, since it is due to the free will choices of moral beings. He was not the direct Creator of moral evil, since it arose through angels and human beings.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil
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- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/06/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Revdpickrel, 09/06/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Blankinship, Benjamin, 09/07/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 09/07/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Charles Rempel, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Harold Holmyard, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Charles Rempel, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Harold Holmyard, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Charles Rempel, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Harold Holmyard, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, sujata, 09/09/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, B. M. Rocine, 09/09/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Charles Rempel, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Harold Holmyard, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Charles Rempel, 09/08/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Lisbeth S. Fried, 09/07/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil,
Revdpickrel, 09/07/2006
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[b-hebrew] Fwd: origin of evil,
David Anderson, 09/07/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Fwd: origin of evil, Harold Holmyard, 09/07/2006
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[b-hebrew] Fwd: origin of evil,
David Anderson, 09/07/2006
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- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, K Randolph, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/08/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] origin of evil, Shoshanna Walker, 09/08/2006
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