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- From: Harold Holmyard <hholmyard AT ont.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22
- Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:57:44 -0500
Yonah Mishael wrote:
HH: I see I missed a key thought of yours.
Anyway, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this point. Anytime someone says "Christ," they do so to the exclusion of the Jewishview of Messiah. The two have very different connotations in modernEnglish, despite what they meant to native Greek speakers 2000 yearsago. Modern connotation is really what we are accustomed to dealingwith, and it is from here that we draw meaning.
HH: But what is the modern Jewish view of Messiah? There are multiplied thousands of Jewish Christians who understand Mashiach just the way I've been describing. And don't say that Jewish Christians are no longer Jews. Jewish-Christians can claim that that non-Christian Jews have left authentic Judaism, which revolves around God's revelation of Himself in history and includes Jesus, the Messiah. But of course Jewishness is an ethno-religious term, and if people remain Jews who have no faith at all, which is a great number of them. then Jews who believe everything in the Tanakh and more besides certainly deserve the name of Jews if they want it, and they do. The term Mashiach also has a meaning to Gentile Christians. So this narrowing of the meaning of the term to the ideas held by non-Christian Jews is insufficient.
Yours,
Harold Holmyard
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Peter Kirk, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
- [b-hebrew] Mashiax/Christos, Yigal Levin, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mashiax/Christos, Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mashiax/Christos, Joel Stucki, 08/31/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Mashiax/Christos, goranson, 08/31/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22,
Yonah Mishael, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Peter Kirk, 08/30/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] PS Re: Daniel 11:22, Harold Holmyard, 08/30/2006
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