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There is also a link with PSX to a feast, here is the NET notes on the word.  
But I would also take it as to limp by, pass by, spare as does HALOT. p 947...

28 tn The meaning of js^P# (pesah) is debated. (1) Some have tried to connect 
it to the Hebrew verb with the same radicals that means "to halt, leap, limp, 
stumble." See 1 Kgs 18:21 where the word describes the priests of Baal 
cavorting around the altar; also the crippled child in 2 Sam 4:4. (2) Others 
connect it to the Akkadian passahu, which means "to appease, make soft, 
placate"; or (3) an Egyptian word to commemorate the harvest (see Segal, The 
Passover, 95-100). The verb occurs in Isa 31:5 with the connotation of "to 
protect"; Childs suggests that this was already influenced by the exodus 
tradition (B. S. Childs, Exodus, 183, n. 11). Whatever links there may or may 
not have been that show an etymology, in this passage it is describing 
Yahweh's passing over or through.


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From: Yigal Levin <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il> 

> Dear Jack, 
> 
> I'm not sure where the problem is. This whole passage, while not strictly 
> poetry, is written in a kind of dramatic, fast-paced, prose. "Eat it 
> quickly, (FOR) it is Yahweh's Pesah". This is a special night; wonderful 
> things are a-foot; God is going to reveal Himself. 
> 
> As for the root PSX, it means "to skip". A "piseax" is a lame person, 
> someone who "skips". The connection is in verse 13 - Yahweh will "skip 
> over" 
> the Israelites' houses. 
> 
> Yigal 
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:55 AM 
> Subject: [b-hebrew] Exodus 12:11 - 12 
> 
> 
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > I am reading Exodus 12:11 and I am confused by the last three words. The 
> > rest of the passage is clear enough - this is how you eat the meal, with 
> > your loins girded up, scandals on you feet, and your staff in your hand, 
> > and you eat it in haste. It seems like you could put the sof pasuq on 
> > *behipazon* and the sentance would be just fine. The last three words 
> > seem like, if not a complete non sequitur, at least disjointed. The 
> > first part of the verse indicates that those eating the *pesakh * meal 
> > should be ready to move on out at a moments notice. 
> > 
> > Then they are advised to stay in doors the entire night because Yahweh 
> > will visit the latest and worst plague unpon the animals, humans, and 
> > gods 
> > of Egypt. So there is no real reason to have the staff in hand since one 
> > will be going anywhere for some time, not before sunrise. 
> > 
> > Ending the verse telling the Isrealites to be ready to move at anytime 
> > during the meal are three words - 
> > 
> > *pesakh khu layahweh* 
> > 
> > As an ending for 12:11 it does not flow. There is no logical connection 
> > between being ready to move at a moments notice and that fact that the 
> > pesakh is Yahweh's. Grammatically, there is no connection either. There 
> > is no *because* for *for*. Even the cantilation marks do not seem to fit. 
> > If this were some sort of dependent clause, shouldn't there be some sort 
> > of disjunctive mark, like an atnakh or segol or something. It does not 
> > work as a link to the next verse either. 
> > 
> > Even the phrase itself seems odd, is the *pesakh* every anything other 
> > than Yahwehs? 
> > 
> > BTW, What is root of *pesakh*? 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jack Tladatsi 
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Walter:

This just illustrates why we avoid really arguing about=20
dates on this forum - the earlier the date, the more=20
variation there is.

In earlier discussions we noted that there is a variance of=20
up to 50 years as to when Nehemiah rebuilt the walls of=20
Jerusalem, 300 years as to when Pharaoh Raamses II=20
lived, and so forth, according to published sources. Is it=20
any surprise, then, that there should be so much variation=20
in dates for events that happened much earlier, namely=20
the flood and creation?

We haven't touched on copyist errors in manuscripts.

The bottom line is that we can't be sure about any of these=20
dates. Therefore we should not argue about them.

Karl W. Randolph.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "walter mattfeld" <mattfeld12 AT charter.net>=20
>=20
> I have recently updated my article on Noah's Flood (from a Secular Humani=
st
> viewpoint) with a brief exposition on the "problems" of establishing a
> chronology for the Flood (and of the Creation of the World). The problems?
> The Bible exists in differing recensions (Alexandrian LXX, Vaticanus LXX,
> Samaritan Pentateuch, Massoretic Text, Latin Vulgate) that preserve
> differing ages for the pre and post-flood patriarchs, also scholars differ
> among themselves as to what is the "correct methodology" in adding up the
> ages appearing in these _contradicting_ recensions. If intersted, cf. the
> below url and scroll down to the 29 Jan 2006 update:
>=20
> http://www.bibleorigins.net/NoahsArkillustrationPictureSumerianShuruppak.=
html
>=20
> Regards, Walter
> Walter Reinhold Warttig Mattfeld y de la Torre, M.A. Ed.
> mattfeld12 AT charter.net
> www.bibleorigins.net

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