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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: "Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
  • Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Hebrew in messages
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:32:57 -0500

Peter, and others:

This has got to be my last message on this subject.

This whole question started up with the response to my message
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-hebrew/2005-July/023687.html where some
people complained that the Hebrew text that I typed came out as gibberish.
Well, looking at the message as stored on the ibiblio server, the Hebrew
characters were changed, content has been lost, to something that no browser
nor email client can read as Hebrew.

Peter’s response
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/b-hebrew/2005-July/023703.html included
two examples, one in Windows-1255 character set and the other in “character
entities” consisting of four sets of ampersand, hash, four numbers and a
semicolon. When my browser was set to read Windows Hebrew, it rendered both
examples as Hebrew in the message that arrived in my mailbox. But the message
as is stored on the ibiblio server has his Windows example changed to
character entities, and his character entities changed to something that no
browser nor email client can read as Hebrew.

Curiously, when I quoted Peter on
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/b-hebrew/2005-July/023717.html , both
examples are stored as character entities (the second example was not
changed) and any modern browser should render both examples as Hebrew. I
wonder why.....?

Apparently what is happening is that the online email client I use sends html
mail (Thanks Yitzhak Sapir for clarifying this) which is being incompletely
translated to MIME and the Hebrew is lost in translation. However, I can
receive Hebrew with no problem. I suspect that anyone else who uses an html
email client would be able to receive Hebrew from me. Peter, your insistance
that there is a bug was most unhelpful.

Peter, you mentioned that I ought to use a POP mail server. That would be
MIME complient, but I often need to access my mail from different computers,
making such an account not workable.

It boils down to that I, and others using html mail, cannot send Hebrew and
expect all to read it.

When looking up the old messages today, I noticed that all my paragraphs are
written on one line. That is consistant with good html coding, but makes a
mess of the archives. Does MIME add a hard return after every so many
characters to prevent this? If so, how wide should I make the lines?

Karl W. Randolph.




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