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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Jim West <jwest AT highland.net>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor
- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:14:25 +0000
On 30/12/2004 15:30, Jim West wrote:
...I might have ignored this parenthesis, but in his follow-up Jim seemed to think it was the key point...
the Vulgate has "Admirabilis, consiliarus" (and hence is the origin of the common contained in the KJV)
Was this comma really in the original version of the Vulgate, or was it added by a later editor? If so, how much later? After the KJV? It is not in the Vulgate text which I have, but then this has no punctuation which is probably an accurate reflection of what Jerome penned.
So this question has not been answered, although perhaps shifted from the KJV translators to some anonymous Vulgate editors.
Or is the point that the Latin "Admirabilis consiliarius" has to be understood as two nouns in apposition (hence the comma added later) because adjectives follow nouns in Latin? But how fixed is that rule in the Vulgate?
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
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- RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Uri Hurwitz, 12/30/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Jim West, 12/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Peter Kirk, 12/30/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Maurice A. O'Sullivan, 12/30/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Uri Hurwitz, 12/30/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Jim West, 12/30/2004
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RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Charles Rempel, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Jim West, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Peter Kirk, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 12/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Peter Kirk, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Schmuel, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Jim West, 12/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Harold R. Holmyard III, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Peter Kirk, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Schmuel, 12/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Peter Kirk, 12/31/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:5 Wonderful Counselor, Charles Rempel, 12/31/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Schmuel, 12/30/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Jim West, 12/30/2004
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[b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor,
Charles Rempel, 12/30/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 9:6 Wonderful Counselor, Maurice A. O'Sullivan, 12/30/2004
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