Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Harold R. Holmyard III" <hholmyard AT ont.com>]

Dear C,

> I have a question about the translation of the so-called 
> "pluperfect".  In Genesis 2:19 some bible versions translate the 
> wayyiqtol "wayyatser" as "had formed", giving it an epexegetical 
> sense instead of translating it as a narrative wayyiqtol.  I know 
> opinions vary on this particular verse.  My question is this:
>
> Given that the English "God had formed" is used in the NIV, would it 
> be possible to use "having formed"?  This seems to change things a 
> bit, rendering a wayyiqtol (in apparent narrative) with an English 
> participle (in a dependent clause).  Would this be an acceptable 
> translation?

HH: There is nothing I see that would subordinate the verb the way 
you would by using a particle. It is not modifying "brought."

>   Wouldn't the author likely have used a participle if this was 
> intended originally?

HH: He could have.

                                        Yours,
                                        Harold Holmyard




> C Meadows
> Marshall University
> >  From: Bill Rea <bsr15 AT cantsl.it.canterbury.ac.nz>
> >  Date: 2004/12/21 Tue PM 04:43:50 CST
> >  To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >  Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53:8 lamo
> >
> >  Peter wrote:-
> >
> >  >The semantics of the ShLM root in Hebrew are very varied ...
> >  [snip]
> >  >Older translations tried this by calling this sacrifice a "peace
> >  >offering", but scholars have realised that this is a misunderstanding,
> >  >and so this translation has now been abandoned.
> >
> >  What do they consider it to be now?
> >
> >  Thanks.
> >
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