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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew
- From: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:16:07 -0700
On Thursday 25 November 2004 11:40, wattswestmaas wrote:
> Hallo All,
>
> I am wondering whether anybody would like to comment on an awkward issue
> that I am facing, and I do not really know from what perspective I should
> base continued learning on.
>
> Am receiving help with my studies from an Israeli who is doing a PHD at
> Cork University. Having chatted to him about how he reads and how he was
> taught biblical grammar at school over a period of 12 years his perspective
> was somewhat surprising BUT very understandable. We chatted for some time
> about imperfect and perfect and he told me to forget about it, putting it
> shortly. He sees a simple past present and future tense. I understand that
> there are issues of Mother-tongue here and the need for grammarians to
> dissect and for the native person to just simply read unaware of his own
> grammatical formulas and all the fuss that foreigners make. However I am
> wondering what comments you could make that would help me to continue on
> the right perspective.
>
> I did mention that the general idea behind the perfect was a 'completed
> action' and imperfect 'incomplete action' but he did not even agree with
> this. Is this a native speaker's personal view or do you think that it is
> really how the bible is taught to Jewish children and on into adult hood?
> Is this how they really understand it.
The tense thing is from modern Hebrew, which William Chomsky described as
more
Indo-European in nature than Semitic. But as you may have gathered from this
board, the perfect/imperfect thing doesn't exactly work, either. We're
fairly sure that BH isn't tensed, but it doesn't really seem to be aspectual,
either. That's why many of us are engaged in ongoing research, trying to
figure out exactly what it is (at the moment, we can only tell you what it
isn't).
--
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
"No good. Hit on head." -Gronk
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[b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
wattswestmaas, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Noam Eitan, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Peter Kirk, 11/25/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew, Sameer Yadav, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Yigal Levin, 11/25/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew, Shoshanna Walker, 11/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Peter Kirk, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Dave Washburn, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/25/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Rolf Furuli, 11/26/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew, Uri Hurwitz, 11/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Rolf Furuli, 11/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Uri Hurwitz, 11/25/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew, Karl Randolph, 11/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] A Jewish perspective on reading biblical hebrew,
Noam Eitan, 11/25/2004
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