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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: "C. Stirling Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
- Cc: hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent
- Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 21:45:02 +0100
On 21/10/2004 16:55, C. Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
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Peter,
I am not sure we are talking about exactly the same thing.
Take a look at:
Ezek. 23:28 ky kh )mr )dny yhwh hnny ntnK byd )$r &n)t byd )$r-nq(h np$K mhM
The antecedent of )$r in the expression byd )$r &n)t is not explicit, it is
inferred or, if you prefer, it is exophoric rather than anaphoric. To supply
a place holder % to mark the position of this antecedent byd-% )$r &n)t
implies that there is something defective about the syntax, that it is
missing something. But the expression byd )$r &n)t is well formed. There is
nothing missing. A relative with an exophoric antecedent is perfectly
acceptable.
OK, this is syntactically normal, just semantically anomalous.
I would agree that semantically the exophoric antecedent is present in theWell, I think I would consider this a figure of speech. This is a well-formed sentence "... into the hand which hates you, into the hand which your NEPE$ was estranged(?) from (them)." But here the hand is a metonymy or synecdoche for the person who owns the hand. But there is no placeholder here.
text but syntactically it is not. So if we are talking syntax I would say
leave the place holder out. If you are talking semantics then the place
holder serves a purpose.
Note the "from them" which is the resumptive pronoun I was referring to.
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Peter Kirk
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/21/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/21/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/21/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/22/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/23/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/23/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, Peter Kirk, 10/23/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/23/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, Peter Kirk, 10/23/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent, Peter Kirk, 10/23/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/23/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
Peter Kirk, 10/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Placeholders: )$R w/o antecedent,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 10/21/2004
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