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  • From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
  • To: "Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] 2 Samuel 6:19 'date cake' & 'raisin cake'
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 13:43:46 -0500

Brian:

The problem is that neither word is used in a context that clearly shows the
definitions.

)$Y$H is used only 3 times, )$PR only twice. Unless there is a clear
definition from cognate languages and/or early translations, to define these
words is guess work.

)$Y$H seems related to )$Y$ which is a grape vine, or maybe a variety
thereof, so it makes sense that it has something to do with raisins, possibly
a type of fruitcake.

Any clues from cognates or translations?

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Powell <powellbrian AT omf.net>

> Greetings.
>
> I have two questions about this verse. First, the word )e$:pfr.
> Footnotes in the various bibles say this is a word of uncertain meaning.
> It is variously translated as 'A cake of dates' or 'A portion [of
> meat]'. Does anyone have any insight into what this means?
>
> Secondly, the word )a$iy$fh. This is generally translated as a cake of
> raisins. However I just want to clear up my understanding on this
> because one of the Philippine bibles translates this to mean a cake made
> with raisins (ie. something like a fruit-cake), whereas I have always
> thought that it meant a handful of raisins that has been pressed
> together into a block. Which is correct?
>
> Thanks.
> Brian
>
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>
> Brian & Laureen Powell
>
> Bible Translators
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