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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses
- From: Rolf Furuli <furuli AT online.no>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses
- Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:06:02 +0200
Dear Clay,
Your question is fine because it illuminates the issue. I do not say that durativity per se is a semantic property; what I said was that when a verb is marked for durativity (sing, run, work etc), the verb can never cease to be durative. Thus, durativity represent the semantic meaning of that verb.
Please note that states are durative, but they are not dynamic. When a stem changes the property of a verb, this property is not semantic.
Best regards
Rolf Furuli
University of Oslo
C. Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
On 9/17/04 10:45 PM, "Rolf Furuli" <furuli AT online.no> wrote:
In Hebrew we have the verb $YR ("to sing"), which signals an action
which is durative and dynamic (dynamic=change). Regardless of whether
this root is used as an infinitive, a participle, a WAYYIQTOL, or as a
YIQTOL these two properties are always the same. We can say that this
root is marked for durativity and dynamicity, and these properties can
never be taken away from this root. This is semantic (uncancellable)
meaning ...
Rolf,
Could you try proving this with the verb (MD ("to stand")? The qal tends to
be durative but the hifil does not. So the root itself does not have an
invariant value for +/- durative. Do you treat the qal and hifil as
different roots?
greetings,
Clay Bartholomew
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Peter Kirk, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Ken Penner, 09/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Dave Washburn, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Peter Kirk, 09/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Rolf Furuli, 09/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Rolf Furuli, 09/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/18/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Rolf Furuli, 09/19/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Peter Kirk, 09/19/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Peter Kirk, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Ken Penner, 09/22/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
C. Stirling Bartholomew, 09/16/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Dave Washburn, 09/17/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses, Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Dave Washburn, 09/17/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Use and Misuse of Waw in Verb Tenses,
Rolf Furuli, 09/17/2004
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