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- From: "UUC" <unikom AT paco.net>
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- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3
- Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 16:54:55 +0300
I always wondered, If the grammar is so complicated, how did the ancients
spoke these languages, anyway? Surely it looked to them simpler than that.
Sincerely,
Vadim Cherny
> Serves to prove the view that the waw consecutive verbs are not imperfects
at all, but preterites (past tense) with a non-converse waw. The jussive is
formed off the preterite, hence both forms are shorter than the imperfect.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> Lecturer in Biblical Languages
> Southern Cross College
> Sydney, Australia
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Harold R. Holmyard III
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3
>
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> >I really mean it, I don't go looking for trouble but:
> >
> >Genesis 1:2 -- Let there be light and there was light.
> >
> >My grammar book states ( about the perfect + imperfect sequence): "The
vav
> >consecutive is used nowhere else in the whole hebrew verb system except
> >here". I.E. Vav with patach.
> >
> >So? YHi (yod heh yod) being a jussive is followed by exactly the same
except
> >with Vav consecutive, and as I understand it one cannot point the vav
in
> >this manner EXCEPT on a vav consecutive. Yet this second verb is also
> >imperfect.
> >
> >Now you can all obliterate my reasoning because as is usual I have to
be
> >missing something obvious.
>
> HH: I changed the header since the verse you cite is Gen 1:3. You may
> be overlooking something. The preceding verb of importance may be
> "and he said," because "Let there be light" is an object clause for
> the verb of saying. So "and he said" is the main clause. The thought
> progression may be: "And he said something, and there was light." So
> the waw consecutive on "and there was" may follow a similar waw
> consecutive on "and he said," which may go back to the QATAL verb
> "was" in Gen 1:2: "darkness was."
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
>
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[b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:2,
wattswestmaas, 05/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 05/24/2004
- RE: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3, wattswestmaas, 05/24/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
George Athas, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
furuli, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
furuli, 05/26/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3, Peter Kirk, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
furuli, 05/26/2004
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3, George Athas, 05/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
furuli, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
UUC, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
Dave Washburn, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
UUC, 05/26/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3, Dave Washburn, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
UUC, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
George Athas, 05/27/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3, UUC, 05/27/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
Dave Washburn, 05/26/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] Vav consecutive Gen 1:3,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 05/24/2004
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