Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>]

> 
> Dear Liz,
Dear Vadim,
You wrote:
> Do you know where the land of the living is employed as a 
> metaphor for the territory?
I know of Psalm 137:4 (where YHWH"s songs
cannot be sung since they are in a foreign land)
which can be compared to Psalm 116:9 (where YHWH's songs
can be sung because they are in the land of the living).
The Rabbis Rashi and Redak interpret "the land of the living"
in Isaiah 53 to be Judah and Jerusalem so I agree with them 
in this instance.
Best,
Liz

> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Vadim
> 
> 
> 
> > Israel had suffered double for all her sins by the exile.
> > Deuetero Isaiah preached that the time of forgiveness had 
> dawned and 
> > that it was time to return home. The  pathway for our god 
> across the 
> > desert which was the return of YHWH to Zion which all the 
> world could 
> > see was the ret urn of the temple vessels (Isiah 52) from 
> Babylon, the 
> > temple of Marduk where they had been, to Zion and the 
> rebuilt temple.
> > That is what Second Isaiah is about, the return of the Jews to Zion 
> > rebuilt. The climax is Isaiah 52. The one spoken of in Isaiha
> > 53 was cut off from the land of the living, that is, he 
> didn't get to 
> > return, but he had enabled the return somehow.
> > Liz Fried
> > A2
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Harold R. 
> > > Holmyard III
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:54 PM
> > > To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53 read within the book as a whole
> > >
> > > Dear David,
> > >
> > > I like this idea that Isaiah 53 explains how Israel 
> received double 
> > > for all her sins, and I will have to try and read Isaiah 
> that way to 
> > > see if it works.  I have always understood double to imply that 
> > > Israel had been punished twice as much as she had sinned. 
> And much 
> > > in Scripture suggests Israel will be punished terribly before 
> > > ultimate peace and victory comes.
> > > So while I accept all that you said and am grateful that you said 
> > > it, the words of Isaiah 40 still seem enigmatic.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > Harold Holmyard
> > >
> > > >To this situation a surprising twist is
> > > >introduced: exile is announced (39:5-7) and then it is to
> > > end (40:1-2)!
> > > >The surprise is that their iniquity has been atoned for, yet 
> > > >nirstah creates an uncertainty about how this has 
> occurred, i.e. is
> > > the niphal
> > > >reflexive or passive? An ambiguity is introduced, fanned by the 
> > > >ambiguous dual kiplayim. In what way has Jerusalem received an 
> > > >"equivalent" punishment for so many years rebellious years--for 
> > > >judgement is proclaimed then quickly announced as complete? All 
> > > >this "good news" they are to herald (40:9), yet how this has been
> > > achieved
> > > >is hidden by nirstah.
> > >
> > >
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