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["wattswestmaas" <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net>]

Dear Jason,  read again the form of my argument - I was not arguing either
for or against - I was  maintaining a theological  nuetrality.  The argument
over textual translation must take account of many aspects - BUT I WILL
ADMIT that I question his motives.

-----Original Message-----
From: jason AT hareplay.com [mailto:jason AT hareplay.com]
Sent: 14 May 2004 22:58
To: wattswestmaas; b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53


Perhaps this has gone past list protocol? I don't think this is a messianic
list, so please, let's maintain ourselves. We are talking about the TEXT,
not trying to argue for a "son of God" who was "ressurected" (sp). Back on
task, eh?

Thanks,
Jason
*NOT a moderator*

----- Original Message -----
From: "wattswestmaas" <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net>
To: <unikom AT paco.net>; <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53


> Dear Vadim,
>
> I am very curious about what exactly it is that you are trying to prove!
> The Jews in the first century that saw this passage as a graphic portrayal
> of the Son of God suffering and then being ressurected as the Promised
> Messiah were not the first,  there are early rabbinical commentaries  that
> would not agree with your translation.  Even today in Israel Rabbis who
> refute that this passage is about a suffering Messiah have not mutilated
it
> but have rather turned its content to refer to Israel itself as the
> suffering servant for the nations;  it then follows that if your
translation
> is truly a new enlightenment   -  Oh dear me! We have a problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of unikom AT paco.net
> Sent: 14 May 2004 16:13
> To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 53
>
>
> Dear Harold,
>
> That sounds familiar  :)
> In Soviet times, we had people criticizing dissident writers during the
> communist party meetings with the like words, something as, "I didn't read
> this book, but it contradicts our ideal."
>
> Go on, try to argue
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Vadim Cherny
>
>
>
> >Dear Vadim,
>
> I have not looked at your work on Isaiah 53 in depth, but it looked
> strange and far out and basically wrong.
>
> Yours,
> Harold Holmyard
>
>
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