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Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles
- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Karl Randolph <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- Cc: Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles
- Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:54:43 -0800
On 07/03/2004 20:45, Karl Randolph wrote:
But Peter:
Here is a case where the root has the meaning of sending out, and the context is that of weaponry, putting two and two together we get four, i.e. this is weaponry that is sent out, namely projectiles (or missiles). The concept of projectiles also fits the context. To use the generalized term "weapon", though technically correct, is a tad misleading.
Well, we must avoid the etymological fallacy that the meaning of a word is determined by its root consonants. But in a case like this it is reasonable partial evidence, if supported e.g. by ancient versions and interpretations, that these weapons were in fact projectiles or missiles, either in general or of a specific kind. So I would be happy with a translation "projectile", or even "missile" if modern rocket-propelled ones are excluded. What I would not be happy with is a guess about a specific kind of projectile.
When trying to learn a language, it is harder to learn vocabulary when all synonyms are given the same definition. For example, there are about a dozen synonyms for RAH to look, see, in Tanakh. If all are defined with the generalized term "to look, see", how is the student to keep them straight? But if $ZP is defined as to glimpse for a moment, $QP as to look down from a height to a lower place, and so forth, it is not only easier to learn, but it brings out the meaning better.
I see the point that separate definitions aid language learning. But they need to be correct definitions! At the very least we need to know that the terms are used only in the defined context.
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True, there are some terms whose definitions have been almost totally forgotten, others where we have only clues towards a definition, but I think it is better to indicate the more specific definition that the context and roots point to, than just to give a generalized definition. And if we are not sure, admit, at least in lexicons and to students of B-Hebrew, that we are not sure, but this is what we think the meaning is.
Where the definition has been forgotten, surely it is better to admit that and be generic than to use highly unreliable methods to reconstruct a definition.
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[b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Chemorion, 03/04/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, Harold R. Holmyard III, 03/04/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Karl Randolph, 03/05/2004
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[b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 03/05/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, Peter Kirk, 03/05/2004
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[b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 03/05/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, DJNordlund, 03/05/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, Polycarp66, 03/05/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Karl Randolph, 03/06/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, Peter Kirk, 03/06/2004
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Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles,
Karl Randolph, 03/07/2004
- Re: [b-hebrew] War machines and missiles in 2 chronicles, Peter Kirk, 03/08/2004
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