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  • From: "Daladier Lima" <daladier2001 AT hotmail.com>
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  • Subject: [b-hebrew] The Pharaoh dreams
  • Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 12:17:22 -0300

I have a question about the interpretation of dream Pharaoh, Bereshit 41:32.
Why like report Yossef about two dreams with one meaning? Is the Adonai
'davar' only hasty? Why NAKHON? Is the timeline of nations pushed, pressed by
Adonai or timed in, calculated, planned according to time?

Daladier Lima
Brazil
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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Qumran agreement with LXX and MT, was: aph
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Hi Jonathan,

Since most of what you've written has already been addressed, just a few
comments:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Walther" <krooger AT debian.org>
> Witness one: Isaiah 7:14. Pastor Herrell says that in the Septuagint,
> it reads "virgin", while in the Masoretic text this is altered to "young
> woman". Is this a true or a false witness? The matter touches directly
> on the New Testament account of the birth of Jesus.

How in the world does Pastor Herrell know whether the MT's "Almah", which
means "young woman", or the Septuagint's "virgin" is the original. Since the
text was originally in Hebrew and only then translated into Greek, he seems
to think that the Masorets "changed" an original "bethulah" to "almah"
somewhere along the line and that nobady noticed. How on Earth could he know
that. Just as an interesting point, the DDS Isaiah scroll has "almah".

As far as "The matter touches directly on the New Testament account of the
birth of Jesus", that's also rediculous. Isaiah DID NOT have Jesus in mind.
It was convenient for Matthew to have a "prophecy" to quote, but that's all.


>Lack of copies of the Talmud in all the major
> public libraries in my area is also suspicious.

Yes, it is. Your librarians are obviously anti-Semites. Now let's be
serious. The Talmud is a multi-volume, highly specialized legalistic text in
an Aramaic dialect not used by anyone else. Jews begin to study the Talmud
after several years of preliminary study. There are not a lot of good
English translations, and those that do exist are also expensive. Why should
a public library put out good money for an expensive series that nobody's
going to read. Go to any university that has a serious Jewish Studies
program and you'll find a copy.

Yigal





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