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- From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
- To: Jason Hare <jason AT hareplay.com>
- Cc: B-Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text
- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:48:57 -0700
On 28/09/2003 15:24, Jason Hare wrote:
BTW, one of the things that keeps me liking these two suggestions (andJason, I have never suggested that the first he is an unpronounced mater. There is no need to insert a vowel after he to make sure it is pronounced. In the form I preferred, where it is pointed with a sheva, it is a fully pronounced root consonant, as always when non-final, even in LIH:YOWT etc. And he can be pronounced word finally, when it is pointed with mappiq to indicate that it is not a mater. This accords with the general rule that a base letter with any kind of pointing is never silent, but that a non-final base letter without pointing, unless followed by full holem or shuruq, is silent.
that's all they are) is that they maintain the consonantal nature of the
first Heh. I just don't think that Heh would tend to be a /mater lectionis/
in the middle of a word. I know that it (sorta) happens in forms of HYH -- LiH:YoWT, &c. However, I don't think that it would function as a normal -ah
within a word. Are there examples of this happening? Heh is normally a
/mater/ at the end of a word.
Jason
In English we are not used to pronouncing an H sound at the end of a syllable. But this was perfectly normal in biblical Hebrew and still is in middle Eastern languages. It is no accident that for example the modern Turkish Bible uses, in the introduction and footnotes, the form "Yahve", which makes it clear in a language where there is a clear distinction that the first H is pronounced and the second is not - in line with the link to the verb "to be" explained in the footnote to Exodus 3:14.
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Peter Kirk
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RE: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text
, (continued)
- RE: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Trevor Peterson, 09/28/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Liz Fried, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Peter Kirk, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Peter Kirk, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Jack Kilmon, 09/28/2003
- RE: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Liz Fried, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Peter Kirk, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Jason Hare, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Jason Hare, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Peter Kirk, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Jason Hare, 09/28/2003
- Re: [b-hebrew] Variants of YHWH in the BHS Text, Peter Kirk, 09/29/2003
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