Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Liz Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>]

Dear Richard,
The clause you suggest "I desire mercy" is not what I'm getting at.
How do you say "I desire *him to be* merciful"?
Understand?
Liz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Burks [mailto:rburks9400 AT comcast.net]
> Sent: Wed, September 03, 2003 10:02 AM
> To: Liz Fried; Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] syntax question
> 
> 
> Liz,
> 
> As I noted maybe I was missing something ... However if both the clauses
> have a perfective meaning then they seem to say what you are asking ...
> Exactly what time in the past does not seem important, the fact that both
> clauses in your example are completed action seem the critical 
> factor to me.
> But then I don't see why you would have to say it differently in modern
> Hebrew either.  
> 
> I guess I will let someone else respond ... And maybe I will learn
> something.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On 9/3/03 9:12 AM, "Liz Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> > The point is how do you say "I wanted *him to go* yesterday."
> > Liz
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Burks [mailto:rburks9400 AT comcast.net]
> >> Sent: Wed, September 03, 2003 9:48 AM
> >> To: Liz Fried; Biblical Hebrew
> >> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] syntax question
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Lisbeth,
> >> 
> >> I did not find any examples of exactly the type of sentences you
> >> propose in
> >> your question, and I am certain there are others who will 
> weigh in on this
> >> but I shall point to two passages that when pasted together 
> would make the
> >> type of statement you are looking for.  In Hosea   6:6  "For I
> >> desire mercy
> >> ..." [JPS] and  2 Chronicles 28:1  "but he did not ..." [KJV] 
> "and he did
> >> not" [JPS].  The clauses in your sentence could be independent 
> clauses and
> >> are connected together only by the conjunction.  I don't see 
> why you can't
> >> create independent clauses in BH much in the same way and glue
> >> them together
> >> with the waw conjunction.
> >> 
> >> But maybe I am missing something
> >> 
> >> Bill Burks
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 9/3/03 8:41 AM, "Liz Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Dear All,
> >>> I've started to study modern Hebrew
> >>> (I"m going to be teaching at the Rothberg School in
> >>> Jerusalem this fall.)
> >>> In modern Hebrew to say "I wanted her to marry him,
> >>> but she didn't," you have to say "I wanted that she will
> >>> marry him, but she did not marry him."
> >>> How would you say this in BH? I can't think of an example.
> >>> Thanks.
> >>> Liz
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Lisbeth S. Fried
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> >>> University of Michigan
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