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[Polycarp66 AT aol.com]

In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:30:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
daladiersantos AT bol.com.br writes:

> A few questions about Job book fill my mind. Where found Satan when the 
> BENEY ELOHIM come in 
> your presence? In heaven? I find it hard to believe. Who are the BENEY 
> ELOHIM? The LXX bring 
> ANGELLOI, angels. At last, exist THE DAY of apresentation of beney elohim 
> (the article is 
> used)? If yes, which of them become?
> 

Yes, Satan was found to be among the B.:N"Y ):aLoHiYM.  Cf. Re 12.7 where 
there is war in heaven between Michael and the Dragon.  The B.:N"Y 
Hf):eLoHiYM are beings belonging to the divine sphere.

The use of the expression “sons of God” (more correctly “sons of the gods”) 
with reference to heavenly beings does not imply actual progeny of God (or 
the gods) but reflects the common Semitic use of “son” (Heb ben) to denote 
membership of a class or group. “Sons of the gods,” then, designates beings 
belonging to the heavenly or divine sphere. Such allusions to a plurality of 
divine beings, occurring especially in the Psalms and related poetic 
literature, represent a stage when Israel’s Yahwism found room for a pantheon 
in many ways similar to Canaanite models (cf. the literature of Ugarit). In 
the Bible, however, such beings are clearly subordinate to Yahweh, forming 
his heavenly court or council (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7; Pss 29:1; 82:6; 89:6; cf. 
Deut 32:43 LXX). Heb Hebrew; Epistle to the Hebrews

Freedman, D. N. (1996, c1992). The Anchor Bible Dictionary (Vol. 6, Page 
156). New York: Doubleday.

gfsomsel
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The issue does go further than the tetragrammaton. It moves into the Greek
where Christian Churches wrongly try to link John 8:58 with Exodus 3:14.



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Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] LORD


> The message below was for Rolf, who I am not, but after 40 years of
reading
> the Hebrew Bible I cannot help but notice the tetragrammaton thousands of
> times in the text, and wonder just how it should be pronounced.  Also,
why,
> if it is irrelevant and unworthy of consideration, it is there in the
Hebrew
> Bible in the first place.
>
> I respect the opinion of those who think too much time is spent on this.
I,
> however, think that the subject does not get enough real research.  It
is,
> after all, God's own Name, if the Bible is to be believed.  Somehow, I am
> pursuaded thereby that this must be important.
>
> Solomon Landers
>
> In a message dated 02/08/2003 1:49:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Polycarp66 AT aol.com writes:
>
> > You seem to have but one concern -- the tetragrammaton.  I think this
is not
> >
> > worthy of spending any further time and effort discussing....
>
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