Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Peter Kirk" <peterkirk AT ozemail.com.au>]

Agreed, Bryan. There is an implied object of either "message" (perhaps
"command") or "messenger". So this becomes a case where a word-for-word
English gloss of "send" is inadequate in a general purpose translation,
either an object must be supplied or a different English word used.
Actually the sense often seems to me to be action at second hand, almost
causative. In the translation I was working on we generally translated
"Send and call..." with a causative form of the verb "call", i.e. "cause
(someone else) to call", or "summon". But I think we would do well to
recognise this as a Hebrew idiom whose meaning is different from the sum
of its parts, rather than trying to analyse it and reconstruct it from
English words.

Peter Kirk
peter.r.kirk AT ntlworld.com
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~peterkirk/
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: b-hebrew-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:b-hebrew-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of B. M. Rocine
> Sent: 29 January 2003 08:38
> To: 'b-hebrew'
> Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Re: Grammar Texts Question
> 
> hi Peter, you wrote:
> 
> > In fact Samuel's Hebrew is not bad, or even idiosyncratic and
unusually
> > abrupt. It is good Hebrew, which needs to be appreciated for what it
is
> > and for being syntactically different from English. I chose one
example
> > of a common idiom, see also Gen 27:45, 1 Sam 20:12,31, 2 Kings 6:13,
> > 7:13, Ezra 4:14, Job 1:4,5, Jer 43:10 - from a search of the NRSV
for
> > "send and". For more examples of this Hebrew idiom, see the article
> > "Send!" by John Ellington in The Bible Translator, Vol. 45 No. 2
(April,
> > 1994): 228-238 - this should be available online at
> > http://rosetta.reltech.org/TBT/CD3/TBT.html. Ellington writes:
> >
> 
> It seems to me that $LX sometimes means "dispatch." It is used
relatively
> few times (+/- 2% of the total uses) without an object when it means
> dispatch and the existence of an object (in the role of messenger) may
be
> bound up in the idea of dispatching (someone).
> 
> Shalom,
> Bryan
> 
> B. M. Rocine
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