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- From: "Ian Hutchesson" <mc2499 AT mclink.it>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: Curious abut "G-d"
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:46:50 +0100
>Wouldn't the letters of the Tetragrammaton be YHVH, not YHWH? The third
>letter is for 'vav' if I'm not mistaken, right?
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>Right - vav
Sorry, there's no reason to believe that this is the case. One cannot use
the mores of modern Hebrew to say how things were pronounced in ancient
times. vav as an ancient rendering of the sound makes little sense when
one considers the ancient use of waw as a vowel /u/, especially in the DSS.
This strongly indicates a bilabial liquid consonant related to the /u/, ie
/w/, for when you make a /w/ the mouth is in the right state also to make
the vowel sound /u/. As a /v/ is a (labio-dental) fricative, it uses a
different mechanism to provide sound and puts the mouth in no state
reminiscent of a /u/. Perhaps one could supply a *phonological* connection
between waw and its vocalic use some other way, but I haven't seen it done
and can't imagine one.
We do have a strong analogy to the w/u relationship, when yod is used as a
vowel yielding /i/, for when you make a /y/ the mouth is in the right state
also to make an /i/.
waw as vav seems unjustified to me, so I'd say "wrong".
Didn't we get vav from waw after the German sound shift /w/ -> /v/?
Ian
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RE: Curious abut "G-d"
, (continued)
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Ken Smith, 01/18/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Wesselius, 01/19/2002
- Re: Curious abut "G-d", Juan Stam, 01/19/2002
- Re: Curious abut "G-d", Shoshanna Walker, 01/19/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Shoshanna Walker, 01/19/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Ken Smith, 01/20/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Eric Hill, 01/22/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Shoshanna Walker, 01/22/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Ken Smith, 01/22/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Dave Washburn, 01/22/2002
- Re: Curious abut "G-d", Ian Hutchesson, 01/22/2002
- RE: Curious abut "G-d", Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/22/2002
- Re: Curious abut "G-d", Shoshanna Walker, 01/22/2002
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