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- From: "Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: RE: CHESED=Grace
- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:41:22 -0500
Hear, hear!
Well said, George.
liz
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Athas [mailto:gathas AT hotkey.net.au]
> Sent: Wed, January 16, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: CHESED=Grace
>
>
> The word for mercy is RAXAMIM.
>
> The word "lovingkindness" is only half the story with XESED.
>
> The word for "loyalty" seems to be AHABAH (usually translated
> "love", but in the sense of showing
> loyalty, not affection). This word has developed into later forms
> of Hebrew as the equivalent of
> English "love". The commandment to "love Yahweh your God" is not
> to show him affection, but to be
> loyal to him.
>
> CHESED implies both a contractual obligation, as well as a
> favourable disposition. It should not be
> translated "grace" since that is CHEN. A good example of CHESED
> is seen in the story of the
> Israelite spies and Rahab. They make a CHESED with her -- a
> commitment, or a bargain.
>
> The best way to sort out what a word means (and one word can have
> many meanings) is to study the
> contexts in which they appear.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> GEORGE ATHAS
> (Sydney, Australia)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lisbeth S. Fried <lizfried AT umich.edu>
> To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:01 AM
> Subject: RE: CHESED=Grace
>
>
> | I think it should be "covenant loyalty," fealty,
> | what the sovereign owes the vassal, and what the vassal
> | owes his lord.
> | Liz
> |
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: Shoshanna Walker [mailto:rosewalk AT concentric.net]
> | > Sent: Wed, January 16, 2002 1:57 PM
> | > To: Biblical Hebrew
> | > Subject: Re: CHESED=Grace
> | >
> | >
> | > Yes, lovingkindness or mercy
> | >
> | > Exactly
> | >
> | > shoshanna
> | >
> | >
> | > >
> | > > The understanding I have of the word chesed is that it is
> translated as
> | > > grace, mercy or lovingkindness.
> | > > >From "The Place of Faith and Grace in Judaism" by David
> R.Blumenthal.
> | > >
> | > > Christine Bass
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > From: "George Athas" <gathas AT hotkey.net.au>
> | > > To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> | > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:52 AM
> | > > Subject: CHESED
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > > > The second question might refer to a different word
> | > altogether--khesed,
> | > > > > which is notoriously difficult to translate into English
> | > but probably
> | > > gets
> | > > > > rendered both as "righteousness" and "charity" in English
> | > versions. It
> | > > is
> | > > > > often understood as something like "covenant
> faithfulness," but I
> | > don't
> | > > > > know that that really captures the sense either.
> | > > >
> | > > > It's not that hard to translate CHESED into English. I go
> for either
> | > > "commitment" or "devotion".
> | > > >
> | > > > Best regards,
> | > > >
> | > > > GEORGE ATHAS
> | > > > (Sydney, Australia)
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
> | > >
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Re: CHESED=Grace
, (continued)
- Re: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/16/2002
- Re: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/16/2002
- Re: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Ken Smith, 01/16/2002
- Re: CHESED=Grace, Christine Bass, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Trevor & Julie Peterson, 01/16/2002
- Re: CHESED=Grace, George Athas, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Glenn Blank, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/16/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/17/2002
- SV: CHESED=Grace, Søren Holst, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/17/2002
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RE: CHESED=Grace,
Peter Kirk, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/17/2002
-
RE: CHESED=Grace,
Peter Kirk, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Lisbeth S. Fried, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Shoshanna Walker, 01/17/2002
- RE: CHESED=Grace, Ken Smith, 01/17/2002
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