Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Lisbeth S. Fried" <lizfried AT umich.edu>]

Independent of deserving it if you're in the covenant.
I know of its usage with David, and it's in the context
of a covenant relationship between God and him.
So if you have other examples, I'd like to see where it
has nothing to do with a covenantal relationship.
For example, is there hesed between one persona and
another or is only between God and man??
Is it unidirectional, or bi-directional?
The hesed of David wouldn't refer to his mercy to GOd,
but his loyalty.
Liz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shoshanna Walker [mailto:rosewalk AT concentric.net]
> Sent: Wed, January 16, 2002 2:16 PM
> To: Biblical Hebrew
> Subject: Re: CHESED=Grace
>
>
>
>
> That is not what it means, because it refers to kindness or an act of
> kindness which is bestowed independently of the recipient's
> deserving it or
> not.
>
> It is also not only an action, but a quality which is attributed to G-d
>
> Charity is an example (not definition) of Chesed
>
> Shoshanna
>
>
>
> > I think it should be "covenant loyalty," fealty,
> > what the sovereign owes the vassal, and what the vassal
> > owes his lord.
> > Liz
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shoshanna Walker [mailto:rosewalk AT concentric.net]
> > > Sent: Wed, January 16, 2002 1:57 PM
> > > To: Biblical Hebrew
> > > Subject: Re: CHESED=Grace
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, lovingkindness or mercy
> > >
> > > Exactly
> > >
> > > shoshanna
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The understanding I have of the word chesed is that it is translated
> as
> > > > grace, mercy or lovingkindness.
> > > > >From "The Place of Faith and Grace in Judaism" by David
> R.Blumenthal.
> > > >
> > > > Christine Bass
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George Athas" <gathas AT hotkey.net.au>
> > > > To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:52 AM
> > > > Subject: CHESED
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > The second question might refer to a different word
> > > altogether--khesed,
> > > > > > which is notoriously difficult to translate into English
> > > but probably
> > > > gets
> > > > > > rendered both as "righteousness" and "charity" in English
> > > versions. It
> > > > is
> > > > > > often understood as something like "covenant
> faithfulness," but I
> > > don't
> > > > > > know that that really captures the sense either.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not that hard to translate CHESED into English. I go
> for either
> > > > "commitment" or "devotion".
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > GEORGE ATHAS
> > > > > (Sydney, Australia)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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