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- From: "Daniel Wagner" <dan.wagner AT netzero.net>
- To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM")
- Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:28:29 -0400
----- Original Message -----
From: Stoney Breyer <stoney AT touchwood.net>
To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM")
> Dear Trevor Peterson:
>
> Permit me to address your points in reverse order ...
> >if God could go on to
> >identify Himself as )eHyE (a designation which, to my knowledge, is never
> >used elsewhere in the Hebrew Bible), it seems like it would have to
> >develop some sort of serious assertion in the preceding clause.
>
> But surely the fact that the designation is never used again suggests very
> strongly that we should NOT take seriously the implication that His name is
> 'ehyeh?
Hardly so. Several other divine names are singularly revealed, e.g.,
"Jehovah-Jireh," Yahweh-Is-There, Yahweh-Rophe, Yahweh-Zidkenu come to mind
but many more. Each is contextually relevant to the needs of the moment, and
the one in Ex. 3 is no exception.
> . . . I say "implication" because in fact the Deity does NOT
> "assert" His name to be 'ehyeh. He only tells Moses to tell the sons of
> Israel that that's who sent him. I'm suggesting He doesn't mean it
> seriously.
But the formula could be different simply because of the uniqueness of the
name, and to allow for an rhetorical element.
>
> >So what's your take on the second half of v. 14? I could see the first
> >half possibly being this outburst you suggest, but it seems to me like
> >something more substantive has to be meant, by the time you get to 14b.
> >And since 14b seems to build directly off of 14a, that might diminish the
> >likelihood of your suggestion.
>
> I have not made myself clear. Let me put it in script form, transforming
> the wayyo'mers into speech headings and adding interpretive directions to
> the actors in parentheses:
>
> MOSES: (interrupting again) ... and they say to me "What's his name?" --
> what do I tell them?
>
> DEITY: (exploding) I'll be who I'll be! (sarcastic) Tell the
> sons of Israel I'll be sent you! (calming down)
In isolation this may be possible, but what contextual evidence is there that
Moses was asking a frustrating question? Granted, there was plenty about
Moses' responses in his calling dialogue that "annoyed" God, if i could use
that term. But it seems to be a progression, and the anger comes in chapter
4:14. Your view that it comes so early in the progression seems unusual and
out-of-order in the narrative to me.
> Tell the sons of Israel
> that YHWH, god of their fathers ... sent you; (laboring his point to make
> sure there's no misunderstanding) *this* is my name, *this* my memorial age
> after age.
_YHWH_ is likely related to, or at least an intentional allusion to, _)HYH_,
which would explain the follow-up here.
Dan Wagner
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Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM")
, (continued)
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), GregStffrd, 05/11/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Daniel Wagner, 05/11/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), GregStffrd, 05/12/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Daniel Wagner, 05/12/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), GregStffrd, 05/13/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Stoney Breyer, 05/17/2001
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Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"),
GregStffrd, 05/18/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Stoney Breyer, 05/18/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Trevor Peterson, 05/18/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Stoney Breyer, 05/18/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Daniel Wagner, 05/19/2001
- RE: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Trevor & Julie Peterson, 05/19/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), GregStffrd, 05/20/2001
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RE: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"),
Peter Kirk, 05/21/2001
- RE: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Stoney Breyer, 05/22/2001
- RE: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), Peter Kirk, 05/21/2001
- Re: _)aSHER_ in Ex. 3:14 (was "I AM"), GregStffrd, 05/22/2001
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