Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Jan-Wim Wesselius" <jww AT xs4all.nl>]

Well, I would say that such indications at most indicate at what date the
author or final redactor wanted his readers to think the text was written,
which is interesting enough of course, though very few of these indications
are specific enough to pinpoint the intended time.

Abravanel's interest (as well as Spinoza's or Ibn Ezra's) in the expression
is much more limited, as far as I know (I am hardly an expert), as he
apparently wants to demonstrate that both the Former Prophets and the Torah
[sic] may ultimately derive from the period which they describe, but have
been redacted and added unto extensively until the period of the Exile. With
names, words and expressions like "Dan" or "the other side of the Jordan" it
belongs since the Middle Ages to the stock arguments against Mosaic
authorship of the Torah.

Jan-Wim Wesselius, Hoekenes 26A, 1068 MT Amsterdam
Tel. 020 - 619 1535; fax 020 - 619 1636; e-mail jww AT xs4all.nl

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Ruthy & Baruch <alster AT comandcom.com>
Aan: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Datum: maandag 7 februari 2000 11:56
Onderwerp: `ad hayom hazeh


>Dave wrote:
>
>>I'm also interested in studies of the phrase `ad
>> hayyom hazzeh as a possible dating tool in other passages,
>> particularly those mentioning place names (i.e. "it's called x to this
>> very day").  If we take the phrase at face value, it seems to me that
>> the durations of such laws and place names might give us, at
>> least, latest possible dates for some of the texts before us.
>>
>
>R. Isaac Abravanel in his introduction to Joshua mentions such verses as
>proof that the story was written _much_later_ than the events.  Otherwise,
>what is so special that it (whatever it is in each verse) remains "till
>this day"?
>
>Kol Tuv,
>Baruch Alster
>Kochav Ya`akov, Israel
>
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