Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Niels Peter Lemche <npl AT teol.ku.dk>]

and the nice millions of Israelites turned up exactly at the right moment,
what a coincidence, isn't it. And when they came to Jordan there was an
eartquake at Adam making the river stop for a while so they could cross
(this was actually put forward in seriousness about a hundred years ago or
so).

I' am afraid that we do not in my business work with coincidences like that.

NPL


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Banyai Michael [SMTP:banyai AT t-online.de]
> Sent: Thursday, 27 January, 2000 01:00
> To:   Biblical Hebrew
> Subject:      Date of the Exodus (quite short)
> 
> Niels Peter Lemche and J.Kilmon wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Until such time as there is (no) archaeological or epigraphic evidence
> to
> > > support
> > > a bronze age mass exodus of Jews from Egypt, I consider any attempt to
> > > "date the Exodus" in the same light as dating Adam and Eve or Noah's
> Ark.
> 
> Not knowing is excusable... A little help from myself: you should try with
> 
> Ipuwers date according to Seters within the SIP combinated with a date now
> 
> like 1628-1626 for Thera. Geologists have found Nile sediments from the 
> Theran outburst. Some very massive ash cloud must have reached Egypt. My 
> own very accurate date for the Exodus is 1622.
> On short:
> Ipuwer 2.10 Indeed the river is blood, yet men drink of it...
> Exodus 7,20 The waters of the Nile became blood.
> 
> Thera  The water is stained by ironoxide from an eruptive cloud.
> 
> Ipuwer 5.10 The land is left over to its weakness as the broken flax.
>        6.1  Indeed, everywhere barley has perished.
> Exodus 9,31 The flax and the barley were broken...
> 
> Thera  A rain of eruptive lapili.
> 
> Ipuwer 7.1  Behold the fire has gone up on high, and its burning is going 
> forth against the enemies of the land. (the only mentioned enemies in the 
> text are the asiatics)
> Exodus      Well, the current discussion
> Thera  Since we know from geologists that an outburst took its parabolic 
> way towards Egypt, we must aknowledge that such an outburst due to the
> laws 
> of the perspective would be seen from the Sinai and Egypt (if it would
> land 
> into the sea) as a smoke column at day and a fire column at night.
> 
> Ipuwer 10.1 What they are making are tents (?) like the desert folk.
>        14.4 It is indeed good when fine linen are spread out and cloaks
> are 
> on             New Year´s Day...
> Exodus The Sukkot ceremony (at Sukkot). The preceding 5 days of mourning 
> from        the 10-th to the 14-th Abib prove to be the Egyptian
> Epagomena. 
> Since the        Egyptian New Year´s Day (Sothis) is 4 months off the 
> nowaday Abib this is        the explanation of the same 4 month deviation 
> of the quails migration in        the Sinai and for the equation of 8-th 
> Abib (Palm Sunday, opening of the        Gates of Righteousness) by R. Aha
> 
> in the name of Samuel, the son of R.        Isaac with the summer
> solstice. 
> This means 8 Abib deviated within
>        1600 years just by 2 weeks from its original date during the
> Exodus, 
> due        to a transition from Sothic to real sun calendar. (Details on 
> last in           Hebrew Union College Annual, VII, 1929, J. Morgenstern, 
> "The gates of           righteousness".
> Ipuwer 10.10 ...show respect(?)...because of his god, that he may guard
> the 
>        utterance(?)
>        13.1  you have told lies, and the land is a weed which destroys
> 
>   men...(all relating to the pharao)
> 
> Exodus ?    I leave this up to your fantasy.
> 
> More detail? Why I am so sure, 1622 would be the historical date of the 
> Exodus?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Banyai Michael
> Leonberg
> Banyai AT t-online.de
> 
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