Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Niels Peter Lemche <npl AT teol.ku.dk>]

I see no reason to repeat my argument. Ken you are simply wrong and speaking
nonsense. Go to Rome and see for yourself, or go to Athens and see for
yourself, and go to Jerusalem and see what you can find from the 10th
century, and don't bring forward the old crap that it is under the temple
mount. What we don't have, we cannot use. I prefer as I said hard evidence:
If I found a genuine inscription from the 13th century where was written:
'I, Joshua, sin of Nun, rests here. I conquered Canaan', I would have to
change some of my ideas. Find it, and make your day.

NPL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kdlitwak [SMTP:kdlitwak AT concentric.net]
> Sent: Sunday, 02 January, 2000 07:12
> To:   Biblical Hebrew
> Cc:   Biblical Hebrew
> Subject:      Re: historiography (Ken, again)
> 
> 
> 
> Niels Peter Lemche wrote:
> 
> >         [Niels Peter Lemche]  Again the web created by several classical
> > authors makes it possible to date persons like Thucydides or Herodotus
> to a
> > specific time. The alternative would be to say that this web has been
> > constructed by a circle (quite an extensive one) of authors from a much
> > later period. That would exclude Western Europe because of lack of
> knowledge
> > of Greek in that part of the world. As to Byzans, they would know Greek
> in
> > its late Byzantine form, but should in order to create this web be able
> to
> > write in Ionian Greek (Gerodotus), clear Attic Greek (several otgher
> > authors), place Pindar in the right place and do his dialect as well.
> The
> > literary data from classical sourcs do fit together and seem also to go
> well
> > with external evidence as well. It is probably time for Ken Litwak to
> stop
> > this ridiculous discussion about classical analogies.
> 
> It would seem to me this is precisely the argument being made by Jim West,
> Ian, you,
> Thomas Thompson, etc.  All the relationships among the biblical books were
> invented by
> a circle of authors who created the web of relationships themselves.  I'm
> afraid that
> I don't consider a "web of relationships" evidence of anything.  You kept
> talking
> about hard evidence.  To me that means that I can go to the battle field
> where the
> battle of Waterloo or QarQar or the Pelopenesian War and find bodies
> dressed in
> appropriate clothes, weapons, supplies, etc, which can be dated fairly
> precisely to
> the correct date for the battle.  If literary testimony from the Bible is
> irrelevant,
> than it is inconsistent to treat data from other literary sources, simply
> because they
> exhibit a web of relationships which could have been created in a number
> of ways, as
> important.  You're privileging one set of texts and dismissing another
> without
> warrant.
> 
> Ken Litwak
> 
> 
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