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- From: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
- To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
- Subject: Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol)
- Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:25:42 -0700
Material related to the two-prefix-conjugation hypothesis has been
posted in response to Peter, so I won't repeat it here, and have
snipped that part of Henry's post for the sake of bandwidth. I do
want to respond to this:
> > In brief, I do not consider the WAW prefix to be a conjunction, and
> > hence I don't consider it to have any "conversive" force in the
> > traditional sense that the term has been used. Rather, I consider
> > it to be an inflectional morpheme that is actually part of the
> > Hebrew verb system itself, and it is this inflectional morpheme that
> > carries the sense of syntactic break. The fact that it resembles
> > the conjunction in its surface form does not make it a conjunction
> > any more than the fact that HE- interrogative resembles the definite
> > article means it has to be a form of the definite article (an
> > analogy I've presented many times here). We have such homonyms all
> > over Hebrew, yet when we get to the WAW prefix we seem to have a
> > blind spot.
>
> I don't know if it has "conversive force", but it certainly seems to
> have "conjunctive force" -- or why don't we see w@wayyiqtol or
> uwayyiqtol (whichever form the conjunction w@- would take on when
> attaching to a word already beginning with w-, something which doesn't
> occur in the Bible)?
My approach predicts that this would be the case, because
conjunction/coordination would suggest a syntactic connection. If,
as I submit, the wayyiqtol indicates a syntactic break, it wouldn't
be expected to take a conjunction. To say that the prefix must
have conjunctive force because it doesn't take a conjunction is a
non-sequitur. A syntactic break is the antithesis of conjunctive
force.
Also, if the waC- prefix of the wayyiqtol has no
> relationship with the conjunction, then why did this waC- escape the
> phonological change of word-initial w- to y- which basically affected
> every word in the Hebrew language except the conjunction w@-?
I'm not sure what you mean here. Please develop this thought,
maybe with an example or two?
> > I don't consider the WAY prefix to be a separate word along the lines
> > of X+YIQTOL, I consider it an inflection of the verb itself. Thus
> > there is a fundamental difference between X+YIQTOL and WAYYIQTOL;
> > they are two different inflections/conjugations.
>
> The prefixation of waC- certainly serves to _preserve_ the
> distinctness of two conjugations, but the phonological evidence shows
> that such prefixation didn't create the difference between the two,
Obviously I disagree, and I really don't think the evidence requires
the early two conjugations. Amarna Canaanite, written in Akkadian
syllabic cuneiform, isn't enough to justify this kind of leap IMO.
> but rather is a device for maintaining the distinction after an
> original 2nd. millennium B.C. contrast between *yaqtulu and *yaqtul
> was somewhat eroded by later sound changes.
See the material I posted in response to Peter. This is only one
way of looking at the phonological evidence; there are others that
are just as plausible, and I believe, offer a better account of all the
Hebrew data.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
"Oh, no! They've all become giant Swiss lederhosen-clad
dancing yodelers!" "Talk about unpredictable!" - P&B
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Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol),
Henry Churchyard, 08/13/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/13/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Henry Churchyard, 08/14/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), John Ronning, 08/14/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/14/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/15/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), John Ronning, 08/15/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/16/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Henry Churchyard, 08/16/1999
- Re: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/16/1999
- Re[2]: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), peter_kirk, 08/18/1999
- Re: Re[2]: The form of weqatal (really wayyiqtol), Dave Washburn, 08/18/1999
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