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  • From: peter_kirk AT sil.org
  • To: <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Assyrian Hebrew?
  • Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 19:21:36 -0400


Dear Wondell,

I'm trying to make something of this, in the light also of Henry's
comments. Well, the name "Assyrian", in the abbreviated form "Syriac"
(so I have heard - is that true?) and even today in such modified
forms as "Aisor" and "Suryani", is used for various Aramaic dialects.
So let's read "Aramaic" for "Assyrian" in the text given. Well, the
Biblical Aramaic form of SHALOM is SHELAM [$:LFM], with a long A in
the second syllable. So is the point being made here that many
Israelites became Aramaic speaking (and started to use the square
Aramaic characters) during the exile and because of this many Jewish
texts are in Aramaic? If so, this part of the article seems to be a
rather confused version of a generally accepted truth, with the phrase
"Assyrian Hebrew" in fact meaning "Aramaic as spoken by Jews". The
relationship between Hebrew and Aramaic might just be classifiable as
a dialect difference, but I think Aramaic speakers ancient and modern
would not accept Aramaic being called a dialect of Hebrew!

But then "Ancient Hebrew" in this article is presumably a reference to
biblical Hebrew. As Henry has pointed out, it is clear that SHALOM was
spoken with a second vowel O in Hebrew of the period of the monarchy,
and later, but SHALAM may have been correct for very early days e.g.
the patriarchal period. Yes, Joseph may have said SHALAM to his
brothers (Gen 43:23). Are these people trying to revive this ancient
pronunciation of Hebrew, or perhaps they are trying to promote
Aramaic?

Peter Kirk


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Subject: Assyrian Hebrew?
Author: gs02wmr AT panther.Gsu.EDU at internet
Date: 07/08/1999 17:53


Shalum Achshaav!

I was perusing a web page of a local cult in my area, and on one of their
pages they make the claim that the word "Shalom" is really suppoed to be
"Shalam." Their logic is as follows:

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The word SHALAM means peace. The reason why we spell the word SHALAM
with an "A" instead of an "O" (SHALOM), is because when you look at the
Hebrew alphabet there is no "O". The using of the letter "O" is incorrect!
This is how the word is written in the Ancient Hebrew(Shalam), and in the
Assyrian Hebrew(ShAlAm). The Hebrew Israelites spoke and wrote in
the ancient Hebrew dialect.

The reason why so many of our records today are written in the Assyrian
Hebrew, is due to, when we were in captivity under the Assyrian Empire.
Read II Kings Chapter 17, verse 23 says, "Until the Lord removed Israel
out of his sight, as he had said by all his servants the prophets. So was
Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day." In
the process of time, as we were held captives by the Assyrians (for
approximately 200 years), we began to speak and write in a different
form/dialect of the ancient Hebrew language."
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They give us 2 pictures, HEBREW1.GIF is supposed to be the original
Biblical Hebrew alphabet, and HEBREW2.GIF is the "false" Assyrian Hebrew
alphabet.

So according to their logic, are they correct? Is the word "Shalom" really
supposed to be pronounced "Shalam" ?

Thank you.

Wondell M. Rachman





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