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  • From: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • To: b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: Eli Eli Lama Azbatany or Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani?
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:23:25 -0700


> Shalom To the List:
>
> In the book of Tehilim chapter 22:1 we have the direct quote from David as
> to what Ishua said on the execution stake:
>
> "My God, My God why hast thou "forsaken me". In Ivrit(hebrew) this is:
>
> "Eli Eli Lama Azbatany"
>
> BUT
>
> In when Ishua is on the cross He is recorded to have said
>
> "Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani" in Mattityahu/Matthew chapter 27.
>
> So we have a toss up. The word Azbatany or Sabachthani.
>
> Here is the definition for Azbatany:
>
> 05800 `azab {aw-zab'}
> a primitive root; TWOT - 1594,1595; v
> AV - forsake 129, leave 72, leave off 4, faileth 2, fortify 2, help 2,
> committeth 1, destitute 1, refuseth 1, surely 1; 215 1) to leave, loose,
> forsake 1a) (Qal) to leave 1a1) to depart from, leave behind, leave, let
> alone 1a2) to leave, abandon, forsake, neglect, apostatise 1a3) to let
> loose, set free, let go, free 1b) (Niphal) 1b1) to be left to 1b2) to be
> forsaken 1c) (Pual) to be deserted 2) to restore, repair 2a) (Qal) to
> repair Here is Sabachthany: In the lexicon there is a questi
> on mark beside this word!!!!!!!!!
>
> 4518 sabachthani {sab-akh-than-ee'}
> of Aramaic or 07662 with pronominal suffix;; Aramaic transliteration AV -
> sabachthani 2; 2 1) thou hast forsaken me. It is said that this word
> corresponds to the word Shebaq which is number 7662:
>
> 07662 sh@baq (Aramaic) {sheb-ak'} corresponding to the root of 07733; TWOT
> - 3018; v AV - leave 4, let alone 1; 5 1) to leave, let alone 1a) (P'al)
> to llet alone 1b) (Ithpael) to be left
>
>
> Why if this is a direct quote from Davud would he then not say Azbatany
> and say Sabachthani?

As I understand it, he was speaking Aramaic, not Hebrew.
Dave Washburn
http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
A Bible that's falling apart means a life that isn't.




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