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- From: "Bryan Rocine" <596547 AT ican.net>
- To: "Lee R. Martin" <lmartin AT vol.com>, "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: X-Qatal & Storyline
- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:22:55 -0500
Hi Lee,
You wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> Quite by accident, I found an interesting x-qatal in Judges 11:29.
<snip>
>
> I would suggest that the the x-qatal does indeed present a sequential
> event, but the event is out of sequence with the verse that follows.
> The x-qatal is used as a break for the reader. This break may be called
> peak (whatever that may be), and it highlights the vow of Jepthah. The
> vow is parenthetical to the battle-narrative (verses 29, 32, & 33).
> Thus, the vow is preceded by an x-qatal. The content of the x-qatal is
> then repeated in v.32 in order to resume the battle-narrative. This
> break in the narrative also suggests that the writer is separating (in
> causative sense) the vow from the influence of the spirit of Yahweh.
> That is, the spirit of Yahweh causes Jepthah to lead his forces into
> battle, but the vow is a separate event, that was not instigated by the
> spirit of Yahweh.
>
> Does this make any sense to anyone?
>
It does make sense to me. May I just think out loud about a curious
detail?
Notice the X-qatal clause in question: umicpeh gil`ad `abar beney `amon
All the translations I looked at, including yours, supply the Eng word
*to*, denoting Jephthah passed or crossed *to* the beney `amon. I think
supplying *to* makes sense in the context of Jephthah crossing here and
there. In addition, as you have mentioned, Jephthah does pass *to* the
beney `amon in v. 32 where the Hebrew does have the word 'el.
BUT, like I said, a little detail... I think it's quite unusual to see the
root `br used with a "people-name" for a direct object rather than a
place-name. In addition, `br does have another sense besides pass over.
It can also mean overtake (as in defeat), and this meaning may be activated
by a "people-name" for a direct object. I.e., maybe the X-qatal clause
refers to Jephthah's overtaking of Ammon. He was, after all, chasing them.
How's this translation:
"And it was from Mizpeh-Gilead that he overtook the children of Ammon."
This translation suggests, as I think the Hebrew may, a stoppage of story
time, quite approriate, as you have mentioned, in anticipation of the
parenthetical paragraph about the vow. I realize that I am putting quite a
bit of significance on the lack of the preposition 'el in the X-qatal
clause. What do you think?
Here are a couple references using `br to express "overtaking":
1 Sam 14:23 And the battle overtook Beyt-'Aven (even though Beyt 'Aven is
a place-name)
2 Sam 18:23 Then 'Ahima`ats ran and overtook the Cushite.
Shalom,
Bryan
B. M. Rocine
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X-Qatal & Storyline,
Lee R. Martin, 02/09/1999
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Yochanan Childs, 02/09/1999
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Dave Washburn, 02/09/1999
- Re[2]: X-Qatal & Storyline, Peter_Kirk, 02/09/1999
- Re: Re[2]: X-Qatal & Storyline, Dave Washburn, 02/09/1999
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Bryan Rocine, 02/09/1999
- Re[4]: X-Qatal & Storyline, Peter_Kirk, 02/10/1999
- Re: Re[4]: X-Qatal & Storyline, Dave Washburn, 02/10/1999
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Paul Zellmer, 02/10/1999
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Lee R. Martin, 02/11/1999
- Re: X-Qatal & Storyline, Dave Washburn, 02/11/1999
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