Biblical Hebrew Forum

[Paul Zellmer <zellmer AT cag.pworld.net.ph>]

Peter_Kirk AT SIL.ORG wrote:

> As I mentioned in a previous E-mail, I see an inclusio from verses 21
> to 26 "faithful city" which suggests a self-contained section 21-26.
> That and the shift of person would be enough to suggest a change at
> v.27.

Peter, I'm not quite sure what kind of change you are saying is suggested.  
Is this a
change of speaker?  Even if "faithful city" is an inclusio, that does not 
prevent the
original speaker from continuing.  Hence, my original question.

> I am not sure that NIV takes 27-28 as a parenthesis, but if it
> does I would suggest that this is incorrect - I don't see coherence
> (as NIV has translated) between 21-26 and 29-31. More probably 21-26,
> 27-28 and 29-31 were originally three separate utterances.
>

Perhaps "parenthesis" was the wrong term.  Would you prefer "transitional 
statement"?
Anyway, NIV clearly takes 27-28 out of the quotation marks.

I personally am steered away from the verses simply being a transitional 
statement
because, instead of smoothing out problematic grammar, these verses are the 
location
of some of the more unusual grammar forms.  As I said, it looks like peak to 
me.  I
guess I'm just going to have that open note to myself to continue to look for 
shift of
person at peaks in predictive narratives.

Hey, I know!  This is just another example of editorial work that was 
botched! ;^>

Paul
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