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  • From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Good science and Permaculture.
  • Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:44:26 -0400

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Robyn Francis <robyn@permaculture.com.au>
wrote:

> Something being missed in this thread is the role and function of the
> Earthcare ethics, Bill was adamant that science without ethics was on a
> precarious path.
>

Within the morass of events in the news this still exists and those who
propagate ethical thinking and behavior are there to be seen if you look
closely enough.
You have to weed out the poseurs, liars and demagogues.

Find people for whom this has meaning and form community, physical and
virtual. We have to survive despite the changes occurring around us that
may not be in harmony
with the Permaculture ethics.

>
> Robyn Francis
> Permaculture College Australia Inc
> Djanbung Gardens, Nimbin NSW
> Professional Development and
> Community Education in Permaculture.
> robyn@permaculture.com.au
> www.permaculture.com.au
>
> > On 5 Apr 2018, at 7:37 am, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Financial reality..new economic theory....before we can realise a way
> > forward or even begin to see a pathway is to first fully understand the
> > history and where we have journeyed through that. The reality is we have
> > been dictated into a world of usery by one very small gang who dictate
> > every facet of the monetary system. Perhaps this is one reason why crypto
> > is taking off. People finally see a way out of the slavery. so before we
> > can move forward we need to recognise what we are part of and the reality
> > of how we are enslaved, and have been as part of a very well orchestrated
> > plan for centuries.
> >
> > So we need to see this and start lighting the fires. Demonstrate rather
> > than demonstrate..Steve Hart.
> >
> > On 4 April 2018 at 22:13, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Perhaps John Taylor Gatto is right..our education system has created a
> >>>> world full of mooorons.
> >>>>
> >>>> The education system is excellent and teachers are skilled and
> >> dedicated.
> >>> Students have to want to learn and become well-rounded, informed,
> >>> knowledgable, employable, skilled adults.
> >>> When AI, machine learning, quantum computing, robotics begins to
> realize
> >>> its potential there will be far fewer jobs.
> >>> That is why I have advised forming communities physical and virtual,
> >>> establish cottage industries, build a free marketing network, find new
> >>> careers and livelihoods that are part of local, community economies. I
> >>> could go on about this for many ages. Maybe someone else has ideas.
> >>>
> >>
> >> One thing I was thinking recently after seeing a traditional Japanese
> >> craftsman making beautiful fountain pens from scratch was that I
> realized
> >> the value of small scale businesses of all sorts, people making things
> or
> >> making foods or performing services. Then I thought about how, under the
> >> right circumstances, communalism and collectivism need to continue to
> exist
> >> as valued survival tools for humanity, but that those who promote them
> need
> >> to focus more on the people who need it and how they, with the skills
> they
> >> possess, can make use of it, preemptively, i.e. now rather than later or
> >> pie in the sky. Money rises to the top of the economic heirarchy like
> fat
> >> on the surface of the brew in the cauldron on the fire. If people don't
> >> take control of their lives they will face new difficulties surviving
> and
> >> become dependent not on their own skills but on welfare.
> >> In other words support your local economy, the kind that is independent
> and
> >> sustained by the people who need it and who make it work. It is not
> >> difficult to see how this can work. It is obvious that what I am
> proposing
> >> is not "taking back the wealth" but creating your own from scratch from
> >> work you do alone or with others, generating wealth for yourself and for
> >> those others who do the same, within the system they have created to
> ensure
> >> their survival.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Or are we all tooo busy in survival mode or just keeping abreast of all
> >>>> subjects in this fast moving changing world.
> >>>>
> >>>> All of the above. We would be doing this anyway.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> >> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
> >> https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kia ora Ehoa
> >
> > [image: Picture]
> > *Steve Hart*
> > *Ecology Architect*
> > *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> > Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> > and Systems Ecology.​*
> > Skype: tipenemanawa
> > Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
> >
> > Permaculture Global Design:
> > www.permacultureglobaldesign.org
> >
> > The Permaculture International College
> > www.permaculturecollege.eu
> > https://permaculturecollege.academia.edu/SteveHart
> >
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--
Lawrence F. London, Jr.
lfljvenaura@gmail.com
https://sites.google.com/site/avantgeared




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